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Red Dead Redemption 2 fan with 6k hours on Stadia begs for character transfer

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Re: Red Dead Redemption 2 fan with 6k hours on Stadia begs for character transfer

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Post by paulmd »

branon wrote: post #128
nvrspyx wrote: post #100

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The person is quoted in the article as saying they don't play story mode and that Google Takeout wouldn't work for transferring their game save to PC as a result. This means that they've been playing the online component, Red Dead Online.

Don't you sign into Rockstar Launcher / Social Club with a Rockstar account in order to play online? Can he not just log into the same game, same launcher, same account on PC and pick up where he left off? I've played RDR2 singleplayer and I get a prompt about cloud saves every time I launch the game on a new PC. If he's playing multiplayer, this should be even easier. Rockstar should have the savedata.

Stadia doesn't go through Rockstar Launcher. Stadia itself is the platform here, Google required custom-rebuilt versions of all these games for linux and for the stadia environment.

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Post by alt227 »

throw7 wrote: post #81

Can someone explain how you play rdr2 for 6k hours? what exactly is he losing in game when stadia shuts down? so if he had played rdr2 on his pc, then stadia shutdown wouldn't affect him at all right?

RDR2 has an online component just like GTA online. In this online mode you play your character as long as you like, building up assets and stats as you complete missions/raids/races etc. This game mode is open ended, so if you spend enough time you can build up an enormous amount of in game assets and currency.

Rockstar locks multiplayer to specific platforms, so if you buy a game on xbox and level up your character there, you can never use that same character on any other platform. In this way you are correct, if he had played on PC all this time then his game save would be in the PC platform cloud not the Stadia cloud.

The guy is a youtube/twitch streamer, so to him loosing this character probably feels like loosing his job.

Re: Red Dead Redemption 2 fan with 6k hours on Stadia begs for character transfer

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Post by tehbeard »

spaceman_2020 wrote: post #110
PedroBatista wrote: post #24

Although the angle of: Losing his characters is the best thing that's happening for him due to wasting a very significant part of his life in video games has some merit (but could be worded differently), this is yet another example on why you shouldn't depend on these platforms for anything of value, specially Google. The immense pressure to transform/re-frame everything as a service, aka: "You'll own nothing and be…

I’ve probably logged in thousands of hours watching, discussing, analyzing sports (not playing - that’s a separate metric) Most older people have likely spent even more hours than this. Yet spending 2 hours watching football, then another hour watching a bunch of talking heads discuss the game, is somehow considered “normal”. I’m not a gamer, but what about this hobby is any different from any other passive sedentary…

Games aren't a passive hobby, there's an active component of feedback. This a higher dopamine response compared to "passive" activities like watching sports or reading; arguably that's the only real difference.

They are capable of creating addictive tendencies as any other substance using the same dopamine reward would for certain individuals.

That and video games being a much younger medium and therefore a waste of time / for babies / the devil's siren call as society loves to berate them.

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Post by praxulus »

Bakary wrote: post #50
Entinel wrote: post #30

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> Although the angle of: Losing his characters is the best thing that's happening for him due to wasting a very significant part of his life in video games has some merit It has no merit. Do you look at your hobbies as wasting your life? I certainty don't. My alone time playing video games is just as important to me as when I'm going hiking or camping with friends.

What bothers me about video games is that they're so accessible. Sometimes I wonder how I would spend my time if I really had many more options at my disposal. The angle has some merit, it just needs quite a few asterisks and the topic has to be evaluated carefully. I don't doubt that millions of gamers have no such cognitive dissonance and simply enjoy their games, of course. For certain specific games, I certainly…

The interesting thing for me has been the completely unintentional collapse in gaming time as I've gotten older. I was borderline addicted to games in high school, but the low barrier to in-person socializing in college, followed by relationships and rising interest in other hobbies has made video games something I have to actively choose to spend time on. Now I'm expecting a kid and even if my free time doesn't completely evaporate, I'm guessing my gaming time will.

It's weird because I still think of myself as a "gamer", but I realized I've spent almost as much time building and tinkering with my current PC as I have actually playing games on it.

Re: Red Dead Redemption 2 fan with 6k hours on Stadia begs for character transfer

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Post by shadowgovt »

It probably won't happen. But FWIW... I had one of the early Nintendo battery-backed carts break on me once. Sent it in for repair. About a month later got a new copy of the cart and a note that apologized for the delay, because their technology allowed them to scan my save file but not to upload it back into the cart. So they'd had a Game Counselor play the game back to where my character was, which delayed the repair.

Neither Rockstar nor Google likely have the scale to fix this issue for everyone, but that kind of customer service is how you get customers for life.

(To be clear, 6k hours is a lot of time and I don't mean to imply it'll be feasible to solve this user's problem that way. But if they can spend a fraction of that time doing even a one-off import into another data format, wouldn't that be cool.)

Re: Red Dead Redemption 2 fan with 6k hours on Stadia begs for character transfer

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Post by 300bps »

nsxwolf wrote: post #149
Entinel wrote: post #30

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> Although the angle of: Losing his characters is the best thing that's happening for him due to wasting a very significant part of his life in video games has some merit It has no merit. Do you look at your hobbies as wasting your life? I certainty don't. My alone time playing video games is just as important to me as when I'm going hiking or camping with friends.

It has some merit. When Call of Duty 4 came out on XBox 360, I was completely addicted to it. At some point I noticed I had been playing the game for 2 months . I spent 2 full months out of a single year playing a game. It was fun! Yeah, it was a lot of fun. But there are real things I could have accomplished by balancing that time with other things. I have good memories of COD4, but I still can't play piano. And 144…

It has some merit. When Call of Duty 4 came out on XBox 360, I was completely addicted to it.

Other than sporadically playing video games with my children, I haven't played regularly since I was a kid.

But that's me. I wouldn't presume to know best for anyone else - why do you think your experience is applicable to others? Is someone binge watching Netflix really better for you than playing video games? Death scrolling TikTok or Facebook? Collecting beanie babies?

I think there are a lot of things people do for varying degrees of mindless entertainment but for some reason video games are singled out as particularly bad.

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Post by yborg »

nsxwolf wrote: post #149
Entinel wrote: post #30

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> Although the angle of: Losing his characters is the best thing that's happening for him due to wasting a very significant part of his life in video games has some merit It has no merit. Do you look at your hobbies as wasting your life? I certainty don't. My alone time playing video games is just as important to me as when I'm going hiking or camping with friends.

It has some merit. When Call of Duty 4 came out on XBox 360, I was completely addicted to it. At some point I noticed I had been playing the game for 2 months . I spent 2 full months out of a single year playing a game. It was fun! Yeah, it was a lot of fun. But there are real things I could have accomplished by balancing that time with other things. I have good memories of COD4, but I still can't play piano. And 144…

Spending 2 months learning piano would have left you as a novice piano player nobody would want to listen to in performance except for your mom. I'd argue that your CoD skills would have made you worth watching after that much time.

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Post by wincy »

ElCheapo wrote: post #40
Entinel wrote: post #30

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> Although the angle of: Losing his characters is the best thing that's happening for him due to wasting a very significant part of his life in video games has some merit It has no merit. Do you look at your hobbies as wasting your life? I certainty don't. My alone time playing video games is just as important to me as when I'm going hiking or camping with friends.

I don't beg for my hobbies, that sounds more like an addiction

I mean I think in Red Dead Redemption 2 multiplayer there’s money to be spent? If it’s anything like GTA 5. Has he spent money on expensive cowboy hats and the like?

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Post by vintermann »

password321 wrote: post #87
datalopers wrote: post #79

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> due to wasting a very significant part of his life in video games He’s a streamer. He makes a living from playing that game. What’s your job? Let’s compare total value add.

Just checked his channel and a few hundred views on each video. Can one really make a living off that?

Possibly a very modest one. I know of a couple of small streamers with few but very loyal fans. The views on their VODs or YouTube videos is a very poor indication of their economic success.
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