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Red Dead Redemption 2 fan with 6k hours on Stadia begs for character transfer

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Re: Red Dead Redemption 2 fan with 6k hours on Stadia begs for character transfer

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Post by sirsinsalot »

PedroBatista wrote: post #24

Although the angle of: Losing his characters is the best thing that's happening for him due to wasting a very significant part of his life in video games has some merit (but could be worded differently), this is yet another example on why you shouldn't depend on these platforms for anything of value, specially Google. The immense pressure to transform/re-frame everything as a service, aka: "You'll own nothing and be…

Making those kinds of value judgements usually suggests the person making the judgement has some work to do on themselves.

The real question is: Is that person happy/content/comfortable. That's what matters, however they get there.

Re: Red Dead Redemption 2 fan with 6k hours on Stadia begs for character transfer

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Post by chillfox »

bartread wrote: post #10

5907 hours spent playing RDR2? Assuming he spent 12 hours a day playing that's 492 days spent doing nothing but playing RDR2 (the 246 days quoted in the article assumes he didn't sleep, eat, go to the loo, shower, etc.). He's literally spent 33% of his waking life in the ~4 years since release doing nothing but playing RDR2 or RDR Online? That seems... perhaps unhealthy, certainly unbalanced - it's definitely a lot o…

He's a YouTuber, no idea if full time, but how much of your life do you spend at work?

Re: Red Dead Redemption 2 fan with 6k hours on Stadia begs for character transfer

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Post by sirsinsalot »

ElCheapo wrote: post #40
Entinel wrote: post #30

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> Although the angle of: Losing his characters is the best thing that's happening for him due to wasting a very significant part of his life in video games has some merit It has no merit. Do you look at your hobbies as wasting your life? I certainty don't. My alone time playing video games is just as important to me as when I'm going hiking or camping with friends.

I don't beg for my hobbies, that sounds more like an addiction

If I spend 6k hours coding a project and was making noise because I was about to have access to my source code taken away ...

would you say i'm an addict?

Re: Red Dead Redemption 2 fan with 6k hours on Stadia begs for character transfer

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Post by slothtrop »

Entinel wrote: post #30
PedroBatista wrote: post #24

Although the angle of: Losing his characters is the best thing that's happening for him due to wasting a very significant part of his life in video games has some merit (but could be worded differently), this is yet another example on why you shouldn't depend on these platforms for anything of value, specially Google. The immense pressure to transform/re-frame everything as a service, aka: "You'll own nothing and be…

> Although the angle of: Losing his characters is the best thing that's happening for him due to wasting a very significant part of his life in video games has some merit It has no merit. Do you look at your hobbies as wasting your life? I certainty don't. My alone time playing video games is just as important to me as when I'm going hiking or camping with friends.

None of that is threatened with the loss of a virtual character in RD2.

Re: Red Dead Redemption 2 fan with 6k hours on Stadia begs for character transfer

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Post by PragmaticPulp »

bartread wrote: post #10

5907 hours spent playing RDR2? Assuming he spent 12 hours a day playing that's 492 days spent doing nothing but playing RDR2 (the 246 days quoted in the article assumes he didn't sleep, eat, go to the loo, shower, etc.). He's literally spent 33% of his waking life in the ~4 years since release doing nothing but playing RDR2 or RDR Online? That seems... perhaps unhealthy, certainly unbalanced - it's definitely a lot o…

> He's literally spent 33% of his waking life in the ~4 years since release doing nothing but playing RDR2 or RDR Online? That seems... perhaps unhealthy, certainly unbalanced

A lot of tech people have a blind spot for excessive video game addiction that goes beyond having some fun with your friends on nights and weekends. The mainstream focus is all about social media apps, but at least among tech people I believe video game addiction is a serious problem for a significant number of people.

I've known several people who lost their social lives almost completely to WoW, EVE Online, competitive multi-player games, or just burying themselves in the 1000 on-sale or free games they've collected in their Steam accounts. Losing entire years to video games during the formative stages of young adulthood can be devastating for social development.

Re: Red Dead Redemption 2 fan with 6k hours on Stadia begs for character transfer

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Post by sirsinsalot »

martincmartin wrote: post #39
Entinel wrote: post #30

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> Although the angle of: Losing his characters is the best thing that's happening for him due to wasting a very significant part of his life in video games has some merit It has no merit. Do you look at your hobbies as wasting your life? I certainty don't. My alone time playing video games is just as important to me as when I'm going hiking or camping with friends.

At what point does a hobby turn into an addition? People who have spent 6k hours in a casino, for example, would probably be happier if they could figure out why they're doing it, and find a more productive way to address that need. Same might be true of someone who has spent 6k hours in a single video game. [I've spent 450 hours in Factorio, but stopped soon after my partner nick named it Divorcio.]

Would you say the same about a 6k hour investment coding a game?

This "if it isn't productive it isn't worthwhile" attitude is toxic.

Re: Red Dead Redemption 2 fan with 6k hours on Stadia begs for character transfer

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Post by throw10920 »

PedroBatista wrote: post #24

Although the angle of: Losing his characters is the best thing that's happening for him due to wasting a very significant part of his life in video games has some merit (but could be worded differently), this is yet another example on why you shouldn't depend on these platforms for anything of value, specially Google. The immense pressure to transform/re-frame everything as a service, aka: "You'll own nothing and be…

This is a really good point - regardless of whether you believe that losing his save file is a net good or net bad for this person (and I believe the latter), it's incredibly important to realize that this guy has no control over what happens from this point on - Google does.

We want to be in charge of making our own decisions - not Google, or Apple, or Facebook, or some other SaaS provider.

(this same argument also applies to the government, by the way)

Re: Red Dead Redemption 2 fan with 6k hours on Stadia begs for character transfer

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Post by redeeman »

martincmartin wrote: post #39
Entinel wrote: post #30

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> Although the angle of: Losing his characters is the best thing that's happening for him due to wasting a very significant part of his life in video games has some merit It has no merit. Do you look at your hobbies as wasting your life? I certainty don't. My alone time playing video games is just as important to me as when I'm going hiking or camping with friends.

At what point does a hobby turn into an addition? People who have spent 6k hours in a casino, for example, would probably be happier if they could figure out why they're doing it, and find a more productive way to address that need. Same might be true of someone who has spent 6k hours in a single video game. [I've spent 450 hours in Factorio, but stopped soon after my partner nick named it Divorcio.]

12 work-days of a hobby and your partner labels it an addiction thats divorce worthy? sounds pretty terrible. I strongly suspect he/she is probably spending atleast as much time on his/her hobby.

Re: Red Dead Redemption 2 fan with 6k hours on Stadia begs for character transfer

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Post by Bakary »

Entinel wrote: post #30
PedroBatista wrote: post #24

Although the angle of: Losing his characters is the best thing that's happening for him due to wasting a very significant part of his life in video games has some merit (but could be worded differently), this is yet another example on why you shouldn't depend on these platforms for anything of value, specially Google. The immense pressure to transform/re-frame everything as a service, aka: "You'll own nothing and be…

> Although the angle of: Losing his characters is the best thing that's happening for him due to wasting a very significant part of his life in video games has some merit It has no merit. Do you look at your hobbies as wasting your life? I certainty don't. My alone time playing video games is just as important to me as when I'm going hiking or camping with friends.

What bothers me about video games is that they're so accessible. Sometimes I wonder how I would spend my time if I really had many more options at my disposal. The angle has some merit, it just needs quite a few asterisks and the topic has to be evaluated carefully.

I don't doubt that millions of gamers have no such cognitive dissonance and simply enjoy their games, of course. For certain specific games, I certainly have no regrets. Some games such as SOMA were even transformative experiences.

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