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Re: Red Dead Redemption 2 fan with 6k hours on Stadia begs for character transfer

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Post by burlesona »

mattbrewsbytes wrote: post #38
lake_vincent wrote: post #23

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I think Google's biggest flaw in this regard is their own denial of the pattern of shutting things down. If they just acknowledge that's how things go, they can prepare better off-ramps for people who adopted their product. Doing this to your users is a slap in the face because it shows no gratitude for the fact that those people took a chance on your product. They believed in it, and it's not their fault your projec…

Honestly they have the capital to take a position where they publicly state they aren't investing in the product anymore, they'll happily refund people money and work with studios to help users move to other platforms but they'll also keep the lights on for whomever wants to keep using it, unsupported. Why they completely kill and bury entire products very quickly is sort of bizarre for a company their size.

It’s not healthy to have too many zombie products and staff around your company. Especially at the rate that Google introduces products and then shuts them down, at this point they would have tons staff working on sunsetted products. Besides how incredibly expensive that is, it’s bad for morale.

The question is just how to shut things down in a good way. Honestly it seems like Google has done better than they usually do with this one (refunding everything), but it’s never possible to make everyone happy who depended on your service.

Re: Red Dead Redemption 2 fan with 6k hours on Stadia begs for character transfer

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Post by neoromantique »

A_D_E_P_T wrote: post #115

I'll just chime in to say that logged hours don't always translate to hours spent playing. I'll often launch a video game, play for 20 minutes, and then alt-tab into my browser and get back to work, with the game paused in the background. At this point, Steam thinks that I've spent 500 hours playing a game, where the actual value is closer to 40. The same effect might be in play here.

I don't know about Stadia, but GeForce Now would kick you out after a minute or so.

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Post by chillfox »

Entinel wrote: post #30
PedroBatista wrote: post #24

Although the angle of: Losing his characters is the best thing that's happening for him due to wasting a very significant part of his life in video games has some merit (but could be worded differently), this is yet another example on why you shouldn't depend on these platforms for anything of value, specially Google. The immense pressure to transform/re-frame everything as a service, aka: "You'll own nothing and be…

> Although the angle of: Losing his characters is the best thing that's happening for him due to wasting a very significant part of his life in video games has some merit It has no merit. Do you look at your hobbies as wasting your life? I certainty don't. My alone time playing video games is just as important to me as when I'm going hiking or camping with friends.

It has even less than no merit when you consider that the guy is a content creator and the math works out to 8 hour week days with the weekend off. Basically a normal work week.

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Post by Elinvynia »

FredPret wrote: post #106
martincmartin wrote: post #39

Earlier quoted context omitted.

At what point does a hobby turn into an addition? People who have spent 6k hours in a casino, for example, would probably be happier if they could figure out why they're doing it, and find a more productive way to address that need. Same might be true of someone who has spent 6k hours in a single video game. [I've spent 450 hours in Factorio, but stopped soon after my partner nick named it Divorcio.]

I had the same with Factorio, only I actually did get divorced. I went through many attempts to quit - including deleting my Steam account. Eventually I set up the household to Mac & Linux only to help increase the friction. Along with a lifestyle overhaul - new hobbies, and actual sport played outside, non-gaming seems to stick. Gaming addiction is real and it can truly destroy a life.

Factorio is Linux native though.

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Post by [deleted] »

Entinel wrote: post #30
PedroBatista wrote: post #24

Although the angle of: Losing his characters is the best thing that's happening for him due to wasting a very significant part of his life in video games has some merit (but could be worded differently), this is yet another example on why you shouldn't depend on these platforms for anything of value, specially Google. The immense pressure to transform/re-frame everything as a service, aka: "You'll own nothing and be…

> Although the angle of: Losing his characters is the best thing that's happening for him due to wasting a very significant part of his life in video games has some merit It has no merit. Do you look at your hobbies as wasting your life? I certainty don't. My alone time playing video games is just as important to me as when I'm going hiking or camping with friends.

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Post by wombatpm »

lake_vincent wrote: post #23
least wrote: post #3

I hadn't even considered this as a consequence of Stadia shutting down. I naively thought, "Well, everyone is getting refunded for everything they spent, so it's fine." Clearly I was wrong. Of course there are folks that have actual game saves that they're heavily invested in on the platform that aren't easily portable. I feel sorry for this person and hope that Google and its partners like Rockstar work together to…

I think Google's biggest flaw in this regard is their own denial of the pattern of shutting things down. If they just acknowledge that's how things go, they can prepare better off-ramps for people who adopted their product. Doing this to your users is a slap in the face because it shows no gratitude for the fact that those people took a chance on your product. They believed in it, and it's not their fault your projec…

Back in the day of cordless phones and landlines, I had a phone with a GOOG411 button, which was great until one day Google shut that service down. I’ve never trusted them since

Re: Red Dead Redemption 2 fan with 6k hours on Stadia begs for character transfer

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Post by branon »

nvrspyx wrote: post #100
cruano wrote: post #74

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Yeah but isn't that a single player game ? Even if it had 100+ hours of gameplay, you'd have to repeat that so many times to get to 6000 hours Very different from someone that plays video games a few hours every day

The person is quoted in the article as saying they don't play story mode and that Google Takeout wouldn't work for transferring their game save to PC as a result. This means that they've been playing the online component, Red Dead Online.

Don't you sign into Rockstar Launcher / Social Club with a Rockstar account in order to play online? Can he not just log into the same game, same launcher, same account on PC and pick up where he left off?

I've played RDR2 singleplayer and I get a prompt about cloud saves every time I launch the game on a new PC.

If he's playing multiplayer, this should be even easier. Rockstar should have the savedata.

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Post by ryandrake »

PragmaticPulp wrote: post #45
bartread wrote: post #10

5907 hours spent playing RDR2? Assuming he spent 12 hours a day playing that's 492 days spent doing nothing but playing RDR2 (the 246 days quoted in the article assumes he didn't sleep, eat, go to the loo, shower, etc.). He's literally spent 33% of his waking life in the ~4 years since release doing nothing but playing RDR2 or RDR Online? That seems... perhaps unhealthy, certainly unbalanced - it's definitely a lot o…

> He's literally spent 33% of his waking life in the ~4 years since release doing nothing but playing RDR2 or RDR Online? That seems... perhaps unhealthy, certainly unbalanced A lot of tech people have a blind spot for excessive video game addiction that goes beyond having some fun with your friends on nights and weekends. The mainstream focus is all about social media apps, but at least among tech people I believe v…

I think 6K hours is excessive, but before anyone casts stones, they should count up how many hours they've spent glued to their smartphones. If we had to pick one, phone addiction is probably a more widespread problem to tackle than video games.

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Post by bitxbitxbitcoin »

dmix wrote: post #55
martincmartin wrote: post #39

Earlier quoted context omitted.

At what point does a hobby turn into an addition? People who have spent 6k hours in a casino, for example, would probably be happier if they could figure out why they're doing it, and find a more productive way to address that need. Same might be true of someone who has spent 6k hours in a single video game. [I've spent 450 hours in Factorio, but stopped soon after my partner nick named it Divorcio.]

You can't measure an addiction just by total hours invested in something. That equals 2.4hrs/day, 16hrs/week since the game was released, which might be more indicative but still depends on the reset of their life obligations and what else they seek value from.

The 6k hours I spent on the toilet agreed.
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