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Florida to Supreme Court: Let us regulate social networks as common carriers

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Re: Florida to Supreme Court: Let us regulate social networks as common carriers

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Post by smaryjerry »

scarface74 wrote: post #527
smaryjerry wrote: post #519

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I don’t think that is a common carrier issue. I’m just saying the impact of bans from social media companies, often coordinated among several at once, are more impactful than other companies already listed as common carriers. It’s not like social media is created by these companies, every piece of content shown on the websites was user created and the users deserve protection from malicious and biased actors within t…

Do I also deserve “protection” when RedState has banned me twice for not carrying the party line? Do you think Truth Social would welcome my opinions with open arms?

I don’t know what red state is, a social media company?I am referring to places where none of the content produced is made by the owner. Places where all content is user created.

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Post by jackson1442 »

honkdaddy wrote: post #564
jackson1442 wrote: post #562

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> This is pretty different from coming to school and telling 7yos about the sex party you went to this weekend and which gender you were identifying as when you went. When has this ever happened? > What people have a problem with are the folks who derive their entire identity out of that, and then greatly encourage the kids they teach to do the same. When has this ever happened? > The very obvious comparison here is…

>When has this ever happened? >When has this ever happened? >When has this ever happened? Were you expecting a news article? I'm not the 7yo in the classroom, these are just things I've heard from other parents while I've been spending time in FL. People are earnestly scared about what their kids are being taught in school and I think it's pretty cruel to abuse them instead of taking their concerns seriously. Any of…

> Were you expecting a news article?

Yes, actually.

I can scaremonger straight people equally well, but choose not to. LGBT people are just the latest casualty in the nonsense "culture war."

For example, this: https://apnews.com/article/fact-checking-777442211945

People saw cat litter on campus, which is commonly used to clean vomit off of floors at school, and fabricated this outrage. Anecdotes are not enough to villainize an entire group of people.

I live in TX, the book-banning capital of the US, so not too far off from FL.

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Post by fwip »

patmcc wrote: post #374
fwip wrote: post #352

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Because corporations have funds disproportionate to the people, and because corporate donations are overwhelmingly controlled by the kind of people who run corporations.

They have the money anyway though? Of course the rich will have a dispropriate amount of power, that's what money does. It's not because of "corporations" or super PACs or whatever. Show me a system where a rich man doesn't have more power and influence than a poor man. When you ban or limit groups of people , like corporations or unions or co-ops, from spending on elections, you give more power to those rich individ…

Corporations (often) have more wealth than those rich men heading the corporation do.

For example, Disney's CEO is about five million dollars. Disney the corporation has about 13 billion dollars cash-on-hand.

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Post by hedora »

DiggyJohnson wrote: post #381
hedora wrote: post #368

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Also, since talking about gender identity is also disallowed, I guess the little kids will just use whatever bathrooms they want?

How do you reason that whatsoever? Proper bathroom conduct in K-3 has nothing to do with sexual or gender discourse.

Are you claiming boys and girls are the same gender?

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Post by tptacek »

rayiner wrote: post #299
scarface74 wrote: post #278

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In that case, what makes HN different from Facebook? Should HN not be able to ban overly political posts? Why can’t Facebook claim to be a private club that you have to join?

HN seems like the archetype of an interest-specific club as compared to Facebook’s generic content platform.

How so? It's much easier to create an HN account and post than it is to create a Facebook account.

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Post by michaelmrose »

Consultant32452 wrote: post #548
michaelmrose wrote: post #544

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Please do explain how at present kids are being wronged with specific examples and feel free to follow up with what you think public schooling ought to be replaced with for the tens of millions of kids whose parents cannot afford private school.

Government schools are literal prisons for children and the only place many people will ever encounter physical violence in their lifetimes. They should be replaced with nothing.

For practical purposes for a lot of kids this would mean no education, no socialization, less food, and running wild while any and all adults in the house have to work to pay rent. As someone who had a really shitty public school experience I still think this is absolutely an awful idea.

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Post by [deleted] »

biglearner1day wrote: post #456
UncleMeat wrote: post #443

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No one couldn’t. I’m sorry, but this is garbage. Harm is a thing. Transphobia is transphobia. I’m sure that racist whites thought that MLK was agitating for “equally bad, if not worse” things than Governor Faubus but they were just wrong.

I understand that you have a rich imagination, please do not use it to justify censorship.

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Post by scarface74 »

smaryjerry wrote: post #571
scarface74 wrote: post #527

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Do I also deserve “protection” when RedState has banned me twice for not carrying the party line? Do you think Truth Social would welcome my opinions with open arms?

I don’t know what red state is, a social media company?I am referring to places where none of the content produced is made by the owner. Places where all content is user created.

RedState is a conservative website that allows comments. I was banned because I didn’t toe the line. Do you think they would have been okay with the Biden administration saying I must be allowed to comment.

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Post by scarface74 »

_-david-_ wrote: post #545
scarface74 wrote: post #528

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Twitter and Facebook both have websites that are both easy to deal with on the phone. Global IT spend is 4.5T. https://www.serverfarmllc.com/blog/mind-blowing-worldwide-it... AWS percentage of that spend is infinitesimal.

> Twitter and Facebook both have websites that are both easy to deal with on the phone. I am not saying that you need to have an app to succeed, only that succeeding without one will be difficult and lead to a higher likelihood of failing. If apps are a waste and don't provide any use to people then why do these companies waste their time and money making an app? Why do users often times use the apps? >Global IT spen…

If global IT spend is 4.5T, and AWS revenues is around 50B (don’t quote me I’m too lazy to look it up) and AWS has the largest market share of cloud. That implies that most companies aren’t using cloud and there is no monopoly. Anyone can put a website up, find a colo center to serve traffic somewhere and reach anyone. No one is just randomly blocking websites in the US and Android and now iOS support web push notifications on mobile

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Post by [deleted] »

munk-a wrote: post #561
Consultant32452 wrote: post #547

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Demoralizing public school teachers and making them feel like death sounds like a win to me. The best possible outcome is they all quit and the public schools shut down. Until then, squeeze them, deny them any concept of free speech, let them know they are not to be trusted. These are government agents who have laws compelling parents to put their children in their presence. Public schools are literal prisons for chi…

So are you advocating for religious schools? Just to be clear - an informed electorate is sort of key for American Democracy so openly arguing against any form of education is a pretty clear argument against some really basic tenants of America.

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