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Florida to Supreme Court: Let us regulate social networks as common carriers

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Re: Florida to Supreme Court: Let us regulate social networks as common carriers

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Districts are banning books they believe they need to to comply with state law.

Which books are banned under state law?

Ones which

1. Are complained about by a parent and

2. Are obscene

Note that 2 is open to interpretation, so this justification has been used to ban classics like beloved and the kite runner, as school librarians can face criminal penalties if they don't do what (a single) parent asks.

Re: Florida to Supreme Court: Let us regulate social networks as common carriers

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Hyperbole aside, I've ridden in supercars that are equipped with speed limiters in order to be able to drive on public roads legally in the US.

What law prevents fast cars in the US? The Tesla roadster claims 250MPH, and there are others street legal up to 300 afaik.

I must have misremembered, it looks like the cars came from the factory with speed limiters installed.

Sorry for the mixup but this actually is a good point to consider, this is a platform moderating as it sees fit, according to their observations on when handling becomes less capable at speed.

What Florida wants to do is the equivalent of telling carmakers they cannot put speed limiters on their cars, putting more people in danger. If I want my children to have speed limiters in the cars they drive, well, guess I’d be out of luck!

It goes the other way too: it could also be used to force all carmakers to install speed limiters, and never let people even race at a track. As the original commenter I replied to tried to use as a point against the idea.

The problem with the way they framed it is they tried to make it seem like allowing platforms to moderate as they see fit removes everyone’s choice, which is the opposite of the outcome.

Re: Florida to Supreme Court: Let us regulate social networks as common carriers

#543

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Which books are banned under state law?

Ones which 1. Are complained about by a parent and 2. Are obscene Note that 2 is open to interpretation, so this justification has been used to ban classics like beloved and the kite runner, as school librarians can face criminal penalties if they don't do what (a single) parent asks.

>> Note that 2 is open to interpretation

The same is true for federal law.

From https://www.justice.gov/criminal-ceos/obscenity:

"Federal law strictly prohibits the distribution of obscene matter to minors. Any transfer or attempt to transfer such material to a minor under the age of 16, including over the Internet, is punishable under federal law."

Is that book banning?

Do you think federal laws against providing pornography to minors should be overturned?

Re: Florida to Supreme Court: Let us regulate social networks as common carriers

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When I was in kindergarten I knew people you saw in other contexts like school were people like your family who had names and families like your family. I have no idea how one could possibly reach that age and not know that. Extending that with the idea that people's families come in all sizes and combination with some having 2 men or two women seems entirely age appropriate. In the broader context this topic would b…

Your approval is of no value and your disdain is of no concern. If it helps you to create a fantasy in your mind of what my concerns might be, you are free to do so.

Please do explain how at present kids are being wronged with specific examples and feel free to follow up with what you think public schooling ought to be replaced with for the tens of millions of kids whose parents cannot afford private school.

Re: Florida to Supreme Court: Let us regulate social networks as common carriers

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>I work at AWS in Professional Services where we are pushed to go after the other 95%. It wasn't stated in the article that 95% of hosting is self hosted. I would appreciate some article or something that actually makes that claim. >I watch the ReInvent videos. He is very much talking about growing by going after the other 95%. I haven't watch those videos, but if it just reiterates the article then it won't prove yo…

Twitter and Facebook both have websites that are both easy to deal with on the phone. Global IT spend is 4.5T. https://www.serverfarmllc.com/blog/mind-blowing-worldwide-it... AWS percentage of that spend is infinitesimal.

> Twitter and Facebook both have websites that are both easy to deal with on the phone.

I am not saying that you need to have an app to succeed, only that succeeding without one will be difficult and lead to a higher likelihood of failing.

If apps are a waste and don't provide any use to people then why do these companies waste their time and money making an app? Why do users often times use the apps?

>Global IT spend is 4.5T.

> AWS percentage of that spend is infinitesimal.

Literally has nothing to do with anything.

I don't think you understand what I am saying despite repeating myself multiple times.

The percentage of spending going to X doesn't let you figure out the market share of X. Even if it could, which it can't, it has nothing to do with the topic at hand.

I am not even talking about data centers. You brought it up and couldn't even provide the accurate figure for market share. Spending on IT has nothing to do with market share.

Re: Florida to Supreme Court: Let us regulate social networks as common carriers

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And here I am wondering what the fuck happened to freedom. Both the right and left have become supremely prescriptive in their own ways. I want stronger local government. I have no way of trusting any of these assholes at the federal and state level. Why do they get to set standards for schools, infrastructure funding, or social policy? We have grid lock in part because there are different opinions on what's best. So…

No. Just go attend a school board meeting, and even run for school board. If you think only half your local citizens are kooks, consider yourself lucky. When standards are left up to them you get things the Lost Cause myth taught in school for 75 years. County school boards have the ability to strip history books from content they simply don't want taught, because it's politically inconvenient knowledge. How else are…

Don't forget Good-ol-boy nepotism. I've lived in SmallTown America and it's not great when BillyBob, his brother, his kids, nieces and nephews all run the town government, because BillyBob owns the car dealership and everyone in the town is financially connected-to or dependent-on him. Local power is accountable to so few people. We need less local power, not more.

Re: Florida to Supreme Court: Let us regulate social networks as common carriers

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Teachers are service providers. They should have no deeper emotional bond with their students than the cashier at McDonald's has with their regular customers. Students are not friends. While the isolated story of your teacher sharing her wedding pictures is not a big ordeal, it shows an underlying problem of poor boundaries. We have a pervasive problem, at least in the US, of teacher with poor mental health and poor…

I find this approach so sad. We've let the corporatization of everything build such huge walls between us as humans. Seeing every interaction as transactional and emotionless just feels like death to me.

Demoralizing public school teachers and making them feel like death sounds like a win to me. The best possible outcome is they all quit and the public schools shut down. Until then, squeeze them, deny them any concept of free speech, let them know they are not to be trusted. These are government agents who have laws compelling parents to put their children in their presence. Public schools are literal prisons for children.

Re: Florida to Supreme Court: Let us regulate social networks as common carriers

#548

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Your approval is of no value and your disdain is of no concern. If it helps you to create a fantasy in your mind of what my concerns might be, you are free to do so.

Please do explain how at present kids are being wronged with specific examples and feel free to follow up with what you think public schooling ought to be replaced with for the tens of millions of kids whose parents cannot afford private school.

Government schools are literal prisons for children and the only place many people will ever encounter physical violence in their lifetimes. They should be replaced with nothing.

Re: Florida to Supreme Court: Let us regulate social networks as common carriers

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"Conservatism consists of exactly one proposition, to wit: There must be in-groups whom the law protects but does not bind, alongside out-groups whom the law binds but does not protect."

I don't get the point of being divisive on that. That quote is literally just describing corruption, which is present in all governments, though especially those in decline. Ideology has literally 0 relevance there. The past 2 years have had countless examples of such from people all across the political spectrum, and all across the world for that matter. "Rules for thee, but not for me."

Corruption exists, but at least one party isn't putting it into their platform. I'd rather a party that struggles with corruption than one that thinks corruption is the future.

Re: Florida to Supreme Court: Let us regulate social networks as common carriers

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No, but seriously, they're doing this stuff in such a sloppy way that I'd definitely be looking for opportunity, e.g. the wording of one of their anti-CRT things essentially said "no one can make someone else uncomfortable about race" and I'm like "word? I can work with that."

"Conservatism consists of exactly one proposition, to wit: There must be in-groups whom the law protects but does not bind, alongside out-groups whom the law binds but does not protect."

Not all Conservatives agree with the Talmud
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