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Apple’s iPhone 14 Redesign for Repair

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Post by altairprime »

jorvi wrote: post #257
altairprime wrote: post #232

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Anyone crossing a border where a nation state takes physical possession of their device is, currently, protected. The US border authorities have a very awful policy of storing data they’ve stolen for up to 15 years, and other US federal authorities have been previously caught using hardware modifications to hack devices. Anyone within 100 miles of a US border is subject to seizure and search under US law, which is ap…

> Anyone crossing a border where a nation state takes physical possession of their device is, currently, protected. Assuming you are a normal person, you already are. Rapidly click the lock button 5 times and they cannot extract any data with normal means. If you are someone worthy of nation-state attention, why are you crossing the border without a wiped device, as has been the adviced standard practice for years? A…

I have no faith in the ability of nation-states to accurately determine that I am not a criminal, and the authorities in my home nation-state are known around the world for both their excessive violence and their unannounced home invasions, in which (for example) scenario reaching for my phone would result in me being killed. Those protections benefit me and others like me especially, and I’m comfortable paying a few more dollars for authorized repairs to retain them. I appreciate that you do not see the need for those protections for yourself, but the convenience you seek comes at the cost of the safety it provides others. I remain unpersuaded.

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Post by Uehreka »

incanus77 wrote: post #249
mcguirep wrote: post #137

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This doesn't make any sense to me, considering it's being commented upon literally as you wrote that comment within days of the phones release.

This post was on the HN front page and made it all the way there without comment, mine being the first.

Yeah but you posted that comment like, 20 minutes after the post even went up, probably less than 10 minutes after it hit the front page. For a post to not have any/many comments at that point is pretty normal.

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Post by [deleted] »

layer8 wrote: post #93
anonymouse008 wrote: post #63

Apple Care + is going to become an insane profit center and an absolute no brainer when purchasing a new Apple device. This puts Apple’s recent “no limit to accidental repairs” policy update in perspective. When I saw that I said, “well I guess this is how they are going to use their cash reserves, because no way will this be net profitable” To boot, I always wondered why it was so cheap - $200 for AC+ then $29 per s…

So far, not buying AC+ has had better amortized cost for me.

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Post by smoldesu »

ScoobleDoodle wrote: post #107
phpisthebest wrote: post #86

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I do like both security and freedom. How do we get both in this scenario? Have the iOS device ask the user for permission to allow unverified hardware to work? Also have a periodic reminder that unverified hardware is installed and the possible consequences?

> Have the iOS device ask the user for permission to allow unverified hardware to work?

Why is 'asking the user' out of the question? If Apple detects a non-OEM component, then give me a modal when I power the device on asking me if I want to enable it. I certainly don't trust Apple to make that decision for me, everything they've done in the past suggests that they're primarily motivated by increasing profit margins.

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Post by usaphp »

anonymouse008 wrote: post #63

Apple Care + is going to become an insane profit center and an absolute no brainer when purchasing a new Apple device. This puts Apple’s recent “no limit to accidental repairs” policy update in perspective. When I saw that I said, “well I guess this is how they are going to use their cash reserves, because no way will this be net profitable” To boot, I always wondered why it was so cheap - $200 for AC+ then $29 per s…

Hmm, my apple care for iPhone is $6/mo. So it’s just $72/year not $200

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Post by mrtksn »

newaccount74 wrote: post #264
mrtksn wrote: post #202

> Forget satellite SOS and the larger camera, the headline is this: Apple has completely redesigned the internals of the iPhone 14 to make it easier to repair. I find this line hilarious because it's an example of law of the instrument[0]. iFixit and other activist repair shops treat these devices as if their(the iPhones) purpose is getting a repair and all this talk over they years about iPhone repairability was fro…

I think you are wrong, people think a lot about repair costs, which is why Apple Care sells so good. If people didn't think of repair, why would they buy Apple Care? When the back glass on my iPhone X broke, I stopped buying iPhones. Authorized service providers would have charged more for repairing the device than it costs on the second hand market, and 3rd party repair shops would probably do a half assed job becau…

> I think you are wrong, people think a lot about repair costs, which is why Apple Care sells so good

Good point but I think this is more like an insurance because accidents happen. People also buy cases and screen protectors so they are definitely aware that these things can break but the plan is always not to break it.

No one really cares if that the device would be hard or easy to repair as long as they know that repair is a thing and it is a thing because people see the shops on the high street, know apple store fixes broken iPhones or know people who got their devices repaired. Hard or easy to repair is not very relevant to most people because they wouldn't care how much effort took the technician to do their job.

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Post by pb7 »

phpisthebest wrote: post #173
pb7 wrote: post #105

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You are at liberty to buy other products and leave these to those who are happy about the security considerations.

Dont worry I do, the problem is all the other companies play "Follow the Apple" The solution is never just "dont by apple if you do not like it" the solution is highlighting why it is bad, and getting people to pressure companies like Apple to change. Right to Repair is movement, and it is winning. Part of right to repair includes resistance to parts serialization, and/or ensuring that approving new parts that are se…

>the problem is all the other companies play "Follow the Apple"

Then blame the companies you buy from. You are not an Apple customer so they don't owe you anything. Frankly I'm tired of people that don't even buy the products constantly trying to dictate what those products should be.

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