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What will you do with the stories entrusted to you?

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Re: What will you do with the stories entrusted to you?

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Sonder: n. the realization that each random passerby is living a life as vivid and complex as your own—populated with their own ambitions, friends, routines, worries and inherited craziness—an epic story that continues invisibly around you like an anthill sprawling deep underground, with elaborate passageways to thousands of other lives that you’ll never know existed, in which you might appear only once, as an extra…

maybe I'm just an asshole but I've felt whatever is the opposite of sonder these days when I come across people that are so clueless and inattentive they might as well be zombies.

Sounds like a thing that everybody would acuse each other of in any given hyperindivisualistic society. I mean especially in the US you sadly have quite some people who would rather hurt themselves than have a penny go to the help of others. This is beyond pure indifference towards strangers. People actively despise living in a society (even if they ultimatly profit from it).

Re: What will you do with the stories entrusted to you?

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maybe I'm just an asshole but I've felt whatever is the opposite of sonder these days when I come across people that are so clueless and inattentive they might as well be zombies.

I try to remind myself that there are perfectly fine reasons for this to occur. For example, the person might suffer from insomnia. They might have a lower functioning brain due to developmental issues. They may have been in an accident which caused brain trauma. They might operate on a wavelength sufficiently different from you in that moment such that communication seems impossible, and you perceive that as their d…

Or, they might have been zombies for real. That is, people who merely exist, but do not really live anymore. The world is full of them.

People who have no more hopes or dreams, other than to make it somehow through the day.

Re: What will you do with the stories entrusted to you?

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I don't agree with this article. I do agree that everyone is living a story that you know nothing about. But I think everyone on some level is aware of this lack of knowledge about other peoples' lives. In fact I feel it's rather obvious that even the most random person on the street lives a very complex life. A call for compassion because people are "unaware" of the complex lives other people live is a feel good nar…

It still works. Same way the bad guy in the movie gets told "I have a wife and kids" and sometimes spares the bank guard.

It is very different what we know when we sit on the couch and muse about it, from what we know when we are directly engaged in a particular set of actions. It helps when you're in the second to be reminded.

Re: What will you do with the stories entrusted to you?

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Sonder: n. the realization that each random passerby is living a life as vivid and complex as your own—populated with their own ambitions, friends, routines, worries and inherited craziness—an epic story that continues invisibly around you like an anthill sprawling deep underground, with elaborate passageways to thousands of other lives that you’ll never know existed, in which you might appear only once, as an extra…

This is a concept I’ve wanted a word for, for over 20 years. Thank you for sharing it.

The sad thing is, it's a fake Tumblr word not recognized by any dictionary. Not OED or MW or anywhere else. Tumblr has coined a lot of interesting words though; "genderfluid" is another that started as a joke, then had people adopting it as sexuality for real.

Re: What will you do with the stories entrusted to you?

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I've always thought of this as another perspective on Shakespeare's "There are more things in heaven and Earth, Horatio, Than are dreamt of in your philosophy." To believe otherwise is to have lost the wonder of discovery.

This is the great thing of having a nerdy side: You know that literally everything will get interesting if you just dive into it deep enough. Sometimes I feel sad for people who cannot experience that joy.

> Sometimes I feel sad for people who cannot experience that joy.

I feel the same, but then I think to myself: maybe those people are experiencing some quality of existence that I'm not, and thinking to themselves "this is the life".

Re: What will you do with the stories entrusted to you?

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I've always thought of this as another perspective on Shakespeare's "There are more things in heaven and Earth, Horatio, Than are dreamt of in your philosophy." To believe otherwise is to have lost the wonder of discovery.

This is the great thing of having a nerdy side: You know that literally everything will get interesting if you just dive into it deep enough. Sometimes I feel sad for people who cannot experience that joy.

Alternatively - "The nicest thing about anything is not knowing what it is." - George Carlin.

Not knowing how a cloud works is magical for instance. But taking this line of thinking too far can be disastrous. There is a happy middle ground.

Re: What will you do with the stories entrusted to you?

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This is a concept I’ve wanted a word for, for over 20 years. Thank you for sharing it.

The sad thing is, it's a fake Tumblr word not recognized by any dictionary. Not OED or MW or anywhere else. Tumblr has coined a lot of interesting words though; "genderfluid" is another that started as a joke, then had people adopting it as sexuality for real.

Official language recognition generally lags the real world by a significant amount. A word can be in use for many years before it even gets a consideration into a dictionary. Dictionary's reflect the world, not dictate it.

Re: What will you do with the stories entrusted to you?

#98

The most important shift I’ve made in my life was when I started approaching conversations with the attitude that the other person could teach me something, no matter who it is. Sometimes it takes some digging, but I’ve found it to be true.

I think I have heard Ram Dass say that a few times before. ;)

Re: What will you do with the stories entrusted to you?

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This is a concept I’ve wanted a word for, for over 20 years. Thank you for sharing it.

The sad thing is, it's a fake Tumblr word not recognized by any dictionary. Not OED or MW or anywhere else. Tumblr has coined a lot of interesting words though; "genderfluid" is another that started as a joke, then had people adopting it as sexuality for real.

That's the goal of the author, to make up words for complex feelings and phenomena: https://www.youtube.com/c/obscuresorrows

Re: What will you do with the stories entrusted to you?

#100
The Narrative Takeover section is lazy thinking and lazy writing. Nearly every sentence is a claim made in thin air, devoid of practical guidance.

So much advice about communication is couched in the language of victimhood vs unspecified aggressions. That’s fine for memes on LinkedIn, maybe. We should expect more from someone who studies psychology for a living.

No one should say “It’s not about me.” It’s always, for you, about you, first. You judge yourself, position yourself, posture yourself, plan your next move, on and on relentlessly. You must do this. Even the author of this piece wrote it for her own needs, first, and expressed a philosophy that makes her feel better.

Conversation is an exchange. When someone points a finger at a supposed “takeover,” that in and of itself, is attempt at a takeover. EVERY utterance can be interpreted as a takeover if you choose to see it that way. Or instead of takeover you can see it differently: as energy flow. Sometimes I talk to a friend who needs me to hear him. He indicates this by talking without stopping. He hasn’t “taken over,” though. He has signaled his need and I can choose to accept it or make a counter proposal of my own need.

A better way to have written about this would be for the author to stop blaming people for wanting to share anecdotes and connect in that way (which IS a kind of empathizing, regardless of what she claims). Instead, simply say “if you don’t make room to hear quiet narratives from ambivalent or timid people, then you may never hear them. If you care about these people, consider how your behavior might be disabling them.” In other words, it is all about me, and I am playing a First-Person Talker game as I live my life. So if I want be safe and happy I better do things that encourage the people my happiness depends upon to open up to me.

That is my choice, and it is a pragmatic choice, not a moral one. No moral order requires me to self-censor my voice, because if that were true then we would have to say that anyone who ever spoke up in a conversation was committing a sin, since anyone who breaks the silence has blocked others from talking.

I went on a date with a woman in 1991. I talked constantly. She seemed reluctant to say anything. We were married a few weeks later. I am still married to her 31 years later. After we were married she helped me learn how to make quiet space for her to share her thoughts with me. I do this because I choose for her to be happy; because it’s all about my own safety and happiness, which comes through her.

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