Facebook has an explicit policy regarding Holocaust denial content: https://about.fb.com/news/2020/10/removing-holocaust-denial-...
Given their human-reviewed decision to "permanently restrict" the advertising of "Beautiful Blue Eyes", this policy appears to be a disingenuous public relations stance. As director Joshua Newton contends, Facebook's tunnel vision adherence to their keyword flagging algorithm acts as a significant agent for the Holocaust denial movement.
Facebook bans Holocaust film for violating race policy
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#202Here we are, deep down in the dystopia of Automatic Content Classification by robots. Far less important of an example, but I was just put in "Facebook jail" for 24 hours for posting a picture of my son at the beach in his bathing suit with no shirt. Y'know, as one does at the beach. I can only assume it's because my son has long hair and the Convolutional Neural Network or whatever decided he was a girl and therefor…
We don’t just need human moderation, we need due process. These companies control too much of our digital lives and make so much money from us, but have zero regard for us as soon as it’s inconvenient to investigate a case, because that would cut into their insane margins. I was permabanned for Twitter recently merely for getting the attention of some large influencers who disagreed with me (no actual rule was broken, but I received enough reports that my account was nuked).
I appealed multiple times but Twitter’s appeal process is a sham for us little people. I doubt any humans ever looked at my account.
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#203The problem is that no automatic method we have now will catch context. There is a difference between "Jews were murdered by Germans during war" and "Jews destroyed German economy before the war" that will not be recognized by any machine we have nowadays. The first is true, the second is bullshit, how algorithm can now this? More, even if Facebook employees humans to do moderation still for some contractor from Asia…
Furthermore, you can publish "The effects of the Jewish population on the 1930s German economy" which can be either a genuine bona-fide analysis, or something which essentially boils down to "Jews destroyed German economy before the war". I think the "reddit model" where you have smaller communities with community mods works much better than the Facebook or Twitter model where there's one "global community". Not that…
Seconding reddit being very extremely, explicitly antisemitic. It's really just /pol/ with slightly bigger words much of the time.
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#204This is not an exception. This is the norm. All major social media platforms operate under the assumption that it's better to ban 100 innocent people than to let one "bad" person publish something. The scale of censorship is ming-boggling. The scale of denial and ignorance about censorship on HN is even more astounding. The big lie of online censorship is that controversial cases where most people think the person "d…
> The scale of denial and ignorance about censorship on HN is even more astounding.
After reading some of the comments here you're absolutely right :(
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Would you share the link to the book? Genuinely interested in reading
Yep, it is 5 Stars by Louise Blackwick: https://www.amazon.com/5-Stars-Louise-Blackwick-ebook/dp/B09... Really cool author out of the Netherlands, I highly recommend the book. It is dark sci fi, and she calls it "Neon Science Fiction". Which sums the story up nicely (dark and gritty with a flippant attitude) I believe the line she got hit with was "Can You Beat The Neon God's Algorithm?" She also did a list on my sit…
Thanks, I'll give it a try. Interesting site, btw.
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Furthermore, you can publish "The effects of the Jewish population on the 1930s German economy" which can be either a genuine bona-fide analysis, or something which essentially boils down to "Jews destroyed German economy before the war". I think the "reddit model" where you have smaller communities with community mods works much better than the Facebook or Twitter model where there's one "global community". Not that…
The Reddit model allows paid foreign agents to become volunteer community (subreddit) moderators and then use that platform to sow division or push a biased narrative. How much do you think the Chinese government would pay to subtly emphasize or de-emphasize certain stories on a huge community like r/news or r/politics?
Ten cents.
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I'd really like to see this. And after that I'd like to see a jury hit Facebook with 12 figures in punitive damages in a class action case.
Doesn't FB have the right to not do business with you? What is the basis for the suit? Anyway I do remember FB's "a cool "open source" way to do front-end development, feel "free" to use it, you can't sue us though". So maybe there is some shitty clause like that when you sign up.
Was it not a clause in the react js or so, that you lose the right to use the framework if you sued Facebook?
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German here. Not entirely sure what your comment is trying to convey. Germany doesn’t have that much of a free-speech history, at least compared to the US. So the fact that publicly denying or trivializing the holocaust has been illegal (since 1949, I figure) is not seen as dystopian at all. On the contrary, the ban is even widely accepted, and perceived as a good thing. Mind clarifying a bit as to what exactly you’r…
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#210Recently Farcebook has started recommending incredibly toxic anti-SJW shit to me for no apparent reason. Either they turned the "let's incite toxicity" knob to 11 or somebody is seriously abusing them.
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