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Anti-royal protesters are being arrested in the U.K. as 'Not My King' tag grows

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They aren’t being arrested for being anti-monarchy though. They are being arrested for being rude about it. Was the fella on radio 4 who stated to the entire nation that ‘King Charles and his family should be put in a council house and that the Monarchy should be abolished’ arrested? No. If you are going to attend a funeral, any funeral, be it the Queen’s or anyone else’s and hurl abuse or hold up signs with obscenit…

Oh ok. Does that mean if we ask nicely we can dissolve the monarchy?

Sure, just get enough votes in parliament and done and done.

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The UK media (not just the BBC) continue to profess "amazement" at the speed and efficiency of the transitioning from a dead monarch to a living one. There's been much speaking in awed tones at the pace of the various proclamations, committee meetings, document signings, etc, as if this pace tells us why we should be impressed. Personally I've found it borderline sickening. If there was a curtain that could have slip…

Well yeah, you live in a monarchy. Lots of people aren’t okay with it.

Re: Anti-royal protesters are being arrested in the U.K. as 'Not My King' tag grows

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post #9

They aren’t being arrested for being anti-monarchy though. They are being arrested for being rude about it. Was the fella on radio 4 who stated to the entire nation that ‘King Charles and his family should be put in a council house and that the Monarchy should be abolished’ arrested? No. If you are going to attend a funeral, any funeral, be it the Queen’s or anyone else’s and hurl abuse or hold up signs with obscenit…

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Re: Anti-royal protesters are being arrested in the U.K. as 'Not My King' tag grows

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I mean yes? Elect MPs, vote for parties that support the republic movement for a starter. It doesn't really help when all the mainstream parties in the Westminster are royalists.

I would guess Parliamentarians are likely to have read up a bit and discovered why Parliament is sovereign. The English literally tried not having a monarch, they executed Charles I for treason. This concretely answers any residual question, the Parliament can execute the King, so Parliament is sovereign. Turns out the alternative wasn't better. "Lord Protector" Cromwell (ie a dictator) wasn't an improvement over a K…

Last I checked that was a few hundred years ago and there are plenty of parliamentary goverments in complete control and perfectly semi-functional like most modern nations. I'm not sure how Cromwell can be brought up as legitimate example in 2022 when royalty has no real power to speak of.

Re: Anti-royal protesters are being arrested in the U.K. as 'Not My King' tag grows

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Awful lot of Brits learning the crucial difference between the right to free speech, and the privilege of being allowed to speak freely.

Americans too.

https://www.npr.org/2022/09/06/1121322520/a-black-protester-...

Re: Anti-royal protesters are being arrested in the U.K. as 'Not My King' tag grows

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Is it going to be one of this discussion where people speak of Cromwell while pretending the USA and France don’t exist? Just asking.

The USA is the one where they give their elected figurehead pardon powers - like a King in the old times - and the previous one used them to insulate friends who very obviously did crimes. Then in fact he promises to do the same again only more so if given the chance, but his political allies protect him from prosecution anyway. Wow. I mean, I guess Cromwell was worse, but it's not exactly an enviable choice. The US…

So is every other governence of every country in the world but its all we got and it's better than most.

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I see this exact same comment did pretty well on Reddit too: https://www.reddit.com/r/unitedkingdom/comments/xckw5v/comme... 1. Not all of the arrests have been made at a "funeral" 2. It wasn't a funeral 3. If you're going to have a very public precession, parading a body through the streets with all the obedients lapping it up, surely you have to have a level of tolerance for dissenting voices? I imagine the disrupt…

"with all the obedients lapping it up" What exactly is an "obedient"? Are you really deploying a disparaging tag on people who are mourning? That seems a bit crass to me. "we need room for the dissenting voices too" - I saw on C4 (UK TV channel) this evening, some people in Scotland describing their disaffection with the Monarchy. That's fine and quite right. I also find the sheer amount of coverage a bit overwhelmin…

"That seems a bit crass to me." Not anymore crass than creating a cargo cult of monarchist sycophants, and expecting it to go on unopposed into the 22nd century for the sake of 'civility', particularly given the most recent decade of endless, hapless, idiocy and amoral gobshite.

Scotland in particular has a long running loathing of the monarchy, so any superheated response is not remotely surprising.

Re: Anti-royal protesters are being arrested in the U.K. as 'Not My King' tag grows

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The UK media (not just the BBC) continue to profess "amazement" at the speed and efficiency of the transitioning from a dead monarch to a living one. There's been much speaking in awed tones at the pace of the various proclamations, committee meetings, document signings, etc, as if this pace tells us why we should be impressed. Personally I've found it borderline sickening. If there was a curtain that could have slip…

Did you just notice you're in a monarchy? Have you never seen parliament open? You missed prorogation with the silly Black Rod nonsense? I'm not sure how you can characterize this as some creeky system that's just showing its face now lol it's built into so much of your government, multiple times a year, including one extremely high profile case (the prorogation) only a few months ago. Honestly, be grateful. I watch…

>If the cost is some silly ceremony that is increasingly irrelevant every year, pay that cost.

is it though? The UK isn't the only country that has removed its leader in a no-confidence vote. Republics do it regularly just fine. The relationship to the monarchy you have to explain to me, British people don't receive their moral compass from the crown, although the barrage of Netflix shows on that family may create that image in the mind of people who romanticize Britain.

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