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Anti-royal protesters are being arrested in the U.K. as 'Not My King' tag grows

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Post by lupire »

googlryas wrote: post #26
AnimalMuppet wrote: post #3

For all its faults, I love the US. I can go downtown with a sign that says "Not my president", and I may get some cheers, may get some boos. What I won't get is arrested. This is true no matter who is president. Now, if I were saying this about President Harris, say, when she came to visit Biden's body while it was lying in state, that would be deplorable taste. It would be worse if my sign criticized Biden while his…

You can do that in the UK too, just not during a funeral procession. The US has laws against protesting at the funerals of Armed Service members. If you really want to rage against something, why not the thing from your own society, instead of the thing from some other society?

There is a bit of a correlation between people who are ignorant of the world around them, and people who don't see a need for civilized behavior.

Re: Anti-royal protesters are being arrested in the U.K. as 'Not My King' tag grows

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Post by pharmakom »

dqh wrote: post #27
closewith wrote: post #10

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> They aren’t being arrested for being anti-monarchy though. > They are being arrested for being rude about it. Got it. Arrested for poor taste. Hard to see the justification for that in a democracy?

Do you really think you should have the right to disrupt the funeral of someone you don’t like?

What if the funeral is a 10 day extravaganza at tax payer expense whilst some families are choosing between eating and heating?

Re: Anti-royal protesters are being arrested in the U.K. as 'Not My King' tag grows

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Post by jakelazaroff »

babypuncher wrote: post #29
closewith wrote: post #10

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> They aren’t being arrested for being anti-monarchy though. > They are being arrested for being rude about it. Got it. Arrested for poor taste. Hard to see the justification for that in a democracy?

I think it's fair to make certain events, like funerals, off-limits to protest. Freedom of speech does not mean you are free to say anything you want wherever you want. I can't just walk into the Oval Office and start hurling obscenities at the President, and attempting to do so is likely to get me shot by the Secret Service.

> Freedom of speech does not mean you are free to say anything you want wherever you want. I can't just walk into the Oval Office and start hurling obscenities at the President, and attempting to do so is likely to get me shot by the Secret Service.

For trespassing. This example has nothing to do with speech.

Re: Anti-royal protesters are being arrested in the U.K. as 'Not My King' tag grows

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Post by misnome »

ysleepy wrote: post #16
zardo wrote: post #13

Earlier quoted context omitted.

A democracy certainly doesn't need rules to protect the dignity of it's royal family.

Not a royal privilege though, the commoners enjoy the right to an undisturbed funeral too.

Ah, so the entire country counts as the site of a funeral now?

Re: Anti-royal protesters are being arrested in the U.K. as 'Not My King' tag grows

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Post by haunter »

AndyMcConachie wrote: post #32
dijit wrote: post #9

They aren’t being arrested for being anti-monarchy though. They are being arrested for being rude about it. Was the fella on radio 4 who stated to the entire nation that ‘King Charles and his family should be put in a council house and that the Monarchy should be abolished’ arrested? No. If you are going to attend a funeral, any funeral, be it the Queen’s or anyone else’s and hurl abuse or hold up signs with obscenit…

Oh ok. Does that mean if we ask nicely we can dissolve the monarchy?

I mean yes? Elect MPs, vote for parties that support the republic movement for a starter. It doesn't really help when all the mainstream parties in the Westminster are royalists.

Re: Anti-royal protesters are being arrested in the U.K. as 'Not My King' tag grows

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Post by bhk »

dijit wrote: post #9

They aren’t being arrested for being anti-monarchy though. They are being arrested for being rude about it. Was the fella on radio 4 who stated to the entire nation that ‘King Charles and his family should be put in a council house and that the Monarchy should be abolished’ arrested? No. If you are going to attend a funeral, any funeral, be it the Queen’s or anyone else’s and hurl abuse or hold up signs with obscenit…

I immediately suspected it was a misleading headline. (NPR was a clue.)

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Post by klyrs »

AnimalMuppet wrote: post #3

For all its faults, I love the US. I can go downtown with a sign that says "Not my president", and I may get some cheers, may get some boos. What I won't get is arrested. This is true no matter who is president. Now, if I were saying this about President Harris, say, when she came to visit Biden's body while it was lying in state, that would be deplorable taste. It would be worse if my sign criticized Biden while his…

> I can go downtown with a sign that says "Not my president",

Try that at the next ex-President's funeral.

Re: Anti-royal protesters are being arrested in the U.K. as 'Not My King' tag grows

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Post by throwawaymanbot »

dijit wrote: post #9

They aren’t being arrested for being anti-monarchy though. They are being arrested for being rude about it. Was the fella on radio 4 who stated to the entire nation that ‘King Charles and his family should be put in a council house and that the Monarchy should be abolished’ arrested? No. If you are going to attend a funeral, any funeral, be it the Queen’s or anyone else’s and hurl abuse or hold up signs with obscenit…

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Re: Anti-royal protesters are being arrested in the U.K. as 'Not My King' tag grows

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Post by KptMarchewa »

dijit wrote: post #12
closewith wrote: post #10

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> They aren’t being arrested for being anti-monarchy though. > They are being arrested for being rude about it. Got it. Arrested for poor taste. Hard to see the justification for that in a democracy?

You will be arrested for hurling obscenities at mourners regardless of who the dead person is. People were arrested at Margaret Thatchers funeral for the same thing. It’s not rocket science. You’re not allowed to do that.

Once again, Americans are proud of the fact they can protest at funerals.
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