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Anti-royal protesters are being arrested in the U.K. as 'Not My King' tag grows

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They aren’t being arrested for being anti-monarchy though. They are being arrested for being rude about it. Was the fella on radio 4 who stated to the entire nation that ‘King Charles and his family should be put in a council house and that the Monarchy should be abolished’ arrested? No. If you are going to attend a funeral, any funeral, be it the Queen’s or anyone else’s and hurl abuse or hold up signs with obscenit…

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> The new law allows police to act in cases which they deem to be "unjustifiably noisy protests that may have a significant impact on others" or seriously disrupt an organization's activities. Doesn't take a political science degree to see what's wrong with this law. When cops get to decide what is a justifiably loud protest and what isn't you no longer have the right to protest. Protests are meant to disrupt, if you…

Protests are not meant to disrupt. They are meant to convince your fellow citizens of your position. Being a disruptive $#@t, not only defeats that purpose, it actually causes more people to vote against you. Moreover, emotionally driven teenagers (or stunted "adults") use these protests as a pubescent venting mechanism to smash business and mistreat adults they encounter, like some narcissistic violent therapy sessi…

You should look up the history of protests. They absolutely are meant to disrupt.

Re: Anti-royal protesters are being arrested in the U.K. as 'Not My King' tag grows

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Do you really think you should have the right to disrupt the funeral of someone you don’t like?

What if the funeral is a 10 day extravaganza at tax payer expense whilst some families are choosing between eating and heating?

I think we're reaching some insane point in this discussion when a funeral of one of the most well known people in the world, where leaders of literally every major superpower are coming over to pay their respects is called an extravaganza.

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Im totally A-ok with arresting people disrupting a funeral. Like sessh. These are people too. Let them have a funeral, you can protest them afterwards.

Disrupting a funeral is one thing. Disrupting a funeral the public is forced to pay millions of pounds for, while other members of said public can't afford food and electricity, is a completely different matter.

I don't think that it is. The rich and powerful are still real people with real grief. I'm not opposed to people protesting parliment or whatever, but let the mourners mourn in peace.

Re: Anti-royal protesters are being arrested in the U.K. as 'Not My King' tag grows

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You will be arrested for hurling obscenities at mourners regardless of who the dead person is. People were arrested at Margaret Thatchers funeral for the same thing. It’s not rocket science. You’re not allowed to do that.

Once again, Americans are proud of the fact they can protest at funerals.

The alternative is that you can be arrested for saying something mean at a funeral. I prefer the American system.

Re: Anti-royal protesters are being arrested in the U.K. as 'Not My King' tag grows

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They aren’t being arrested for being anti-monarchy though. They are being arrested for being rude about it. Was the fella on radio 4 who stated to the entire nation that ‘King Charles and his family should be put in a council house and that the Monarchy should be abolished’ arrested? No. If you are going to attend a funeral, any funeral, be it the Queen’s or anyone else’s and hurl abuse or hold up signs with obscenit…

>They are being arrested for being rude about it. Which is substantially worse. Rudeness is so subjective and context sensitive that it really shouldn't form the basis for arrests

This is the UK. You get arrested for taking a plastic knife outside or making mean tweets.

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> They aren’t being arrested for being anti-monarchy though. > They are being arrested for being rude about it. Got it. Arrested for poor taste. Hard to see the justification for that in a democracy?

I was absolutely in favor of opposing funeral protests when they were happening in America[1]. Freedom to protest doesn't mean the freedom to abuse people when they're in an emotionally fragile state. I think it's perfectly fair to have a discussion about the validity of the monarchy moving forward - and I think it's also perfectly fair to let those folks who had some emotional connection (whether reciprocated or sin…

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