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Anti-royal protesters are being arrested in the U.K. as 'Not My King' tag grows

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Post by throwawaylinux »

closewith wrote: post #10
dijit wrote: post #9

They aren’t being arrested for being anti-monarchy though. They are being arrested for being rude about it. Was the fella on radio 4 who stated to the entire nation that ‘King Charles and his family should be put in a council house and that the Monarchy should be abolished’ arrested? No. If you are going to attend a funeral, any funeral, be it the Queen’s or anyone else’s and hurl abuse or hold up signs with obscenit…

> They aren’t being arrested for being anti-monarchy though. > They are being arrested for being rude about it. Got it. Arrested for poor taste. Hard to see the justification for that in a democracy?

They arrested a person for making a video of his dog doing nazi salutes. It's not that the royal family is singularly fragile about being upset by other peoples' expression, the whole of the UK is like that.

Re: Anti-royal protesters are being arrested in the U.K. as 'Not My King' tag grows

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Post by AndyMcConachie »

dijit wrote: post #9

They aren’t being arrested for being anti-monarchy though. They are being arrested for being rude about it. Was the fella on radio 4 who stated to the entire nation that ‘King Charles and his family should be put in a council house and that the Monarchy should be abolished’ arrested? No. If you are going to attend a funeral, any funeral, be it the Queen’s or anyone else’s and hurl abuse or hold up signs with obscenit…

Oh ok. Does that mean if we ask nicely we can dissolve the monarchy?

Re: Anti-royal protesters are being arrested in the U.K. as 'Not My King' tag grows

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Post by mytailorisrich »

googlryas wrote: post #18
closewith wrote: post #10

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> They aren’t being arrested for being anti-monarchy though. > They are being arrested for being rude about it. Got it. Arrested for poor taste. Hard to see the justification for that in a democracy?

It's not being arrested for poor taste. They're being arrested for their actions, not their beliefs. Is there some democracy somewhere which doesn't have a public nuisance/breaching the peace style law?

Let's just say that the hecklers have been arrested much, much faster (pretty much instantly, apparently) than the "eco-activists" who recently blocked roads, petrol stations, even motorways...

Re: Anti-royal protesters are being arrested in the U.K. as 'Not My King' tag grows

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Post by lupire »

dqh wrote: post #27
closewith wrote: post #10

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> They aren’t being arrested for being anti-monarchy though. > They are being arrested for being rude about it. Got it. Arrested for poor taste. Hard to see the justification for that in a democracy?

Do you really think you should have the right to disrupt the funeral of someone you don’t like?

USA has the famous Phelps family, a fake religion who attack funerals and then sue the victims for fighting back, and win.

Re: Anti-royal protesters are being arrested in the U.K. as 'Not My King' tag grows

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Post by lupire »

throwawaylinux wrote: post #31
closewith wrote: post #10

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> They aren’t being arrested for being anti-monarchy though. > They are being arrested for being rude about it. Got it. Arrested for poor taste. Hard to see the justification for that in a democracy?

They arrested a person for making a video of his dog doing nazi salutes. It's not that the royal family is singularly fragile about being upset by other peoples' expression, the whole of the UK is like that.

Fragile, civilized. Potato, potato.

Re: Anti-royal protesters are being arrested in the U.K. as 'Not My King' tag grows

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Post by user764743 »

> The new law allows police to act in cases which they deem to be "unjustifiably noisy protests that may have a significant impact on others" or seriously disrupt an organization's activities.

Doesn't take a political science degree to see what's wrong with this law. When cops get to decide what is a justifiably loud protest and what isn't you no longer have the right to protest. Protests are meant to disrupt, if you can't be loud about it then it no longer has its intended effect.

Re: Anti-royal protesters are being arrested in the U.K. as 'Not My King' tag grows

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Post by Gordonjcp »

AnimalMuppet wrote: post #3

For all its faults, I love the US. I can go downtown with a sign that says "Not my president", and I may get some cheers, may get some boos. What I won't get is arrested. This is true no matter who is president. Now, if I were saying this about President Harris, say, when she came to visit Biden's body while it was lying in state, that would be deplorable taste. It would be worse if my sign criticized Biden while his…

But you can be arrested for crossing the street in the wrong place, and you can be shot by the police for any reason, including because they feel like it.

Re: Anti-royal protesters are being arrested in the U.K. as 'Not My King' tag grows

#39

Post by metacritic12 »

ISL wrote: post #22
dijit wrote: post #12

Earlier quoted context omitted.

You will be arrested for hurling obscenities at mourners regardless of who the dead person is. People were arrested at Margaret Thatchers funeral for the same thing. It’s not rocket science. You’re not allowed to do that.

In the United States, with certain limits [1], one can picket funerals and be massively disrespectful. [1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Westboro_Baptist_Church#Laws_l...

That section you linked shows that free-speech is indeed limited within a certain radius of certain funerals.

Re: Anti-royal protesters are being arrested in the U.K. as 'Not My King' tag grows

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Post by mc32 »

ISL wrote: post #22
dijit wrote: post #12

Earlier quoted context omitted.

You will be arrested for hurling obscenities at mourners regardless of who the dead person is. People were arrested at Margaret Thatchers funeral for the same thing. It’s not rocket science. You’re not allowed to do that.

In the United States, with certain limits [1], one can picket funerals and be massively disrespectful. [1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Westboro_Baptist_Church#Laws_l...

But this is a case in the UK. They have different laws and observe different decorum.

Even in the US I would think protesting a funeral to be in extremely poor taste, no matter the target. What’s that Latin phrase about the recently dead?

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