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Re: India is almost 80% IPv6

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Post by Symbiote »

KolmogorovComp wrote: post #45
candl wrote: post #15

Question to those familiar with IPv6. My company has /24 IPv4 PI blocks. We are not a LIR. Can I request a /48 or larger IPv6 prefix from my sponsor LIR (what is the largest IPv6 prefix that can be obtained this way?) Can such IPv6 prefix (not being a LIR) be further distributed to customers? (e.g. we offer some internet access) - afaik there were some restrictions when not being a LIR. I am not sure what the current…

Can someone enlighten me on the LIR acronym? Google is no help

Usually the easiest way: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/LIR

Re: India is almost 80% IPv6

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Post by blackoil »

wtmt wrote: post #31

FWIW, airtel broadband, one of the largest (or the largest?) fixed line broadband providers, doesn’t offer IPv6 for all customers. It seems like mobile broadband from even a lower ranking provider (like Vi) does offer it. I doubt if all ISPs will meet this goal by the end of this year. Source: My current Internet connections.

How old is your router. At least for new connections, I have seen the IPv6 assigned.

Re: India is almost 80% IPv6

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Post by sgtnoodle »

wil421 wrote: post #44
9dev wrote: post #34

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Forcing micro USB and now USB-C on electronic devices has been one of the best ideas by the EU overall. Remember using ten different charging cables? Gone, due to a helpful piece of regulation by the government.

I still have the same issue as before except I’ve added a suite of USB C connectors. I still have micro/mini and regular USB devices on top of all the USB C stuff. Not to mention the premium for a USB C charger.

You have to admit it's a better connector mechanically, though. Also, the vast majority of USB-C devices charge fine from USB-A. The devices that require an expensive charger are things that have previously required a proprietary charger, like laptops.

Re: India is almost 80% IPv6

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Post by Scoundreller »

qalmakka wrote: post #18
yellow_lead wrote: post #14

Earlier quoted context omitted.

For the US, if I had to guess, ISPs have huge lobbying presence in Washington. Of course they won't want to make more work for themselves.

CGNAT is pretty expensive compared to rolling out IPv6 and tunneling IPv4 on it using stuff like MAP-E. I guess they still have no need to NAT everyone ATM because they have plenty of IPv4s to distribute to their subscribers.

CGNAT is pretty much the only setup on mobile though. Dunno if any equipment vendor doesn’t do that.

Would worry about most average cell phones sitting directly on the public internet.

I think there’s a reason we haven’t heard about mass-owns of mobile phones and it’s because they’re always effectively behind firewalls, not because of their superior security.

Re: India is almost 80% IPv6

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Post by Scoundreller »

wil421 wrote: post #44
9dev wrote: post #34

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Forcing micro USB and now USB-C on electronic devices has been one of the best ideas by the EU overall. Remember using ten different charging cables? Gone, due to a helpful piece of regulation by the government.

I still have the same issue as before except I’ve added a suite of USB C connectors. I still have micro/mini and regular USB devices on top of all the USB C stuff. Not to mention the premium for a USB C charger.

> Not to mention the premium for a USB C charger.

Only if you want fast charging. I run my MacBook Air over a USB-A to USB-C cable and it slowly charges under light use at around 2.5A and 5V. And tops off to 100% while not in operation. If you want more voltage, then yeah, you’ll need a more specialized charger, whether USB-C or proprietary.

Re: India is almost 80% IPv6

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Post by Scoundreller »

sgtnoodle wrote: post #73
wil421 wrote: post #44

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I still have the same issue as before except I’ve added a suite of USB C connectors. I still have micro/mini and regular USB devices on top of all the USB C stuff. Not to mention the premium for a USB C charger.

You have to admit it's a better connector mechanically, though. Also, the vast majority of USB-C devices charge fine from USB-A. The devices that require an expensive charger are things that have previously required a proprietary charger, like laptops.

> the vast majority of USB-C devices charge fine from USB-A

I’ve gotten myself stuck a few times with this assumption. My MacBook Air (and probably any MacBook) will accept a trickle at 5V, but my Dell laptop will not.

Re: India is almost 80% IPv6

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Post by dvfjsdhgfv »

HexDecOctBin wrote: post #35
dvfjsdhgfv wrote: post #30

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> I'm ashamed Slightly off-topic, but what should you be ashamed by something that is totally independent from you, that you can't control in any way? Personally I'm ashamed only if I do something wrong myself.

The whole point if nationalism is to have self-governance in order for people to be able to effect their destiny. If modern nationalistic governments are to be seen as distant and impervious, then how is that different from the imperial era? And if the people do have control over their governments, then why should they not feel shame over not exercising that power constructively?

For some reason the modern democracy focused on a set of traits collectively known as left/progressive and right/conservative. In some countries you basically only can choose between the left and the right with no any other option. Statistically, the government formed by any of these parties will do more things not the way you wanted. So unless you have some significant direct democracy mechanisms like Switzerland, you have no control over most issues, not to mention marginal ones such as an internet protocol used in your country.

Re: India is almost 80% IPv6

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Post by cutierust »

While everyone should migrate asap, i hope the powers that be learn lessons and next time create standards that consider himan factors as well (personally recollection is important to me too, not that that's a major factor in stalling migration)

Re: India is almost 80% IPv6

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Post by Duralias »

qalmakka wrote: post #18
yellow_lead wrote: post #14

Earlier quoted context omitted.

For the US, if I had to guess, ISPs have huge lobbying presence in Washington. Of course they won't want to make more work for themselves.

CGNAT is pretty expensive compared to rolling out IPv6 and tunneling IPv4 on it using stuff like MAP-E. I guess they still have no need to NAT everyone ATM because they have plenty of IPv4s to distribute to their subscribers.

For some reason CGNAT seems to be the norm here in Sweden, IPv6 is still almost nowhere to be seen, only existing in a select few cities.

I've been behind CGNAT since I think 2010, at first with DSL with a small ISP and then with one of the big ones with fiber (bredband2), who introduced CGNAT many years ago to prepare for moving to IPv6, which they have still yet to do.

They even stopped supporting their 6rd tunnel apparently.

Re: India is almost 80% IPv6

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Post by kube-system »

9dev wrote: post #33
kube-system wrote: post #19

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Is the reason this regulation doesn’t exist elsewhere because it is difficult? Maybe other places just don’t have a desire to regulate this.

Obviously they will need to sooner or later. IPv4 address space is mostly depleted; at one point or another, regulation is the only thing that will help.

It is possible to use IPv6 without being compelled by law.
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