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Re: India is almost 80% IPv6

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Nice. Can anyone from India comment? I imagine a lot of this is mobile, what is the v6 like on fixed broadband?

Even the state-run broadband ISP goes as far as to offer DHCP prefix delegation: You can get a globally routable address for all your devices.

Meanwhile, here in an exurb in the same country that the Internet was created in, my only real broadband option is DOCSIS3.1 gigabit with Wave/Astound... which sounds nice, except it's still very-much IPv4-only with zero signs of IPv6 rollout - including confirmation from a customer service rep from about 2-3 weeks ago that there's still no plans to deploy IPv6.

Re: India is almost 80% IPv6

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This is required by law. [0][1] Every ISP is required to be fully ipv6-enabled by the end of this year. The deadline has been pushed back multiple times , most recently due to covid. But this time it seems its going to stick. All lagging ISPs seem to have deployed v6 at this time. There has been a "National IPV6 Plan" in place since 2010, and full coverage has been pushed under that plan in stages. Anyone interested…

Why is it so hard to pull off the same regulation in other parts of the world? It isn’t like supporting IPv6 is black magic…

Re: India is almost 80% IPv6

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This is required by law. [0][1] Every ISP is required to be fully ipv6-enabled by the end of this year. The deadline has been pushed back multiple times , most recently due to covid. But this time it seems its going to stick. All lagging ISPs seem to have deployed v6 at this time. There has been a "National IPV6 Plan" in place since 2010, and full coverage has been pushed under that plan in stages. Anyone interested…

Why is it so hard to pull off the same regulation in other parts of the world? It isn’t like supporting IPv6 is black magic…

For the US, if I had to guess, ISPs have huge lobbying presence in Washington. Of course they won't want to make more work for themselves.

Re: India is almost 80% IPv6

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Question to those familiar with IPv6. My company has /24 IPv4 PI blocks. We are not a LIR. Can I request a /48 or larger IPv6 prefix from my sponsor LIR (what is the largest IPv6 prefix that can be obtained this way?) Can such IPv6 prefix (not being a LIR) be further distributed to customers? (e.g. we offer some internet access) - afaik there were some restrictions when not being a LIR. I am not sure what the current state of IPv6 policy is.

Re: India is almost 80% IPv6

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Meanwhile in Italy basically nobody (except Sky and Iliad) offers any support for IPv6.

TIM had a very poorly functioning technical trial of native IPv6 12 years ago, and while it still exists (and sucks) it only works on ADSL (not VDSL, 20Mbps ADSL).

I guess that carriers have just too many IPv4 to throw around, mobile connections are all NATted with no sign of any future roll-out of IPv6 in sight.

Re: India is almost 80% IPv6

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Funny, here in Spain I don't even get an IPv6 address from my fibre provider (which is a sub-brand of Orange).

I don't really miss it anyway. There is nothing I can't do without it.

Edit: According to the link Spain is at 3% which seems about accurate :)

Re: India is almost 80% IPv6

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Why is it so hard to pull off the same regulation in other parts of the world? It isn’t like supporting IPv6 is black magic…

For the US, if I had to guess, ISPs have huge lobbying presence in Washington. Of course they won't want to make more work for themselves.

CGNAT is pretty expensive compared to rolling out IPv6 and tunneling IPv4 on it using stuff like MAP-E. I guess they still have no need to NAT everyone ATM because they have plenty of IPv4s to distribute to their subscribers.

Re: India is almost 80% IPv6

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This is required by law. [0][1] Every ISP is required to be fully ipv6-enabled by the end of this year. The deadline has been pushed back multiple times , most recently due to covid. But this time it seems its going to stick. All lagging ISPs seem to have deployed v6 at this time. There has been a "National IPV6 Plan" in place since 2010, and full coverage has been pushed under that plan in stages. Anyone interested…

Why is it so hard to pull off the same regulation in other parts of the world? It isn’t like supporting IPv6 is black magic…

Is the reason this regulation doesn’t exist elsewhere because it is difficult?

Maybe other places just don’t have a desire to regulate this.

Re: India is almost 80% IPv6

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I'm ashamed at our countrys paltry 14% (Sweden). ISPs don't want to spend money exchanging routers. There's a per-country map here: https://www.google.com/intl/en/ipv6/statistics.html#tab=per-...

I work at a decent-sized ISP in Sweden, and we've been trying to get IPv6 to customers for over 10 years. It's hard. The way the Internet is built (many municipal broadband networks[0]) means there's middle networks that might not support IPv6 (the reason used to be "no interest" and "it's not a priority").

PTS is starting to show some interest[1], we'll see what leads to.

[0] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Municipal_broadband

[1] https://www.pts.se/sv/dokument/rapporter/internet/2022/ipv6-...

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