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Re: India is almost 80% IPv6

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FWIW, airtel broadband, one of the largest (or the largest?) fixed line broadband providers, doesn’t offer IPv6 for all customers. It seems like mobile broadband from even a lower ranking provider (like Vi) does offer it. I doubt if all ISPs will meet this goal by the end of this year.

Source: My current Internet connections.

Re: India is almost 80% IPv6

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Why is it so hard to pull off the same regulation in other parts of the world? It isn’t like supporting IPv6 is black magic…

Because there is no significant benefit to the consumer

It has: significantly cheaper internet access once providers have to charge extra for expensive v4 addresses, complex NAT solutions and gateways.

Re: India is almost 80% IPv6

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Why is it so hard to pull off the same regulation in other parts of the world? It isn’t like supporting IPv6 is black magic…

Is the reason this regulation doesn’t exist elsewhere because it is difficult? Maybe other places just don’t have a desire to regulate this.

Obviously they will need to sooner or later. IPv4 address space is mostly depleted; at one point or another, regulation is the only thing that will help.

Re: India is almost 80% IPv6

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Why is it so hard to pull off the same regulation in other parts of the world? It isn’t like supporting IPv6 is black magic…

Because generally it would be a bad idea for the government to force certain technologies upon the private sector, even if in this case it might be fine.

Forcing micro USB and now USB-C on electronic devices has been one of the best ideas by the EU overall. Remember using ten different charging cables? Gone, due to a helpful piece of regulation by the government.

Re: India is almost 80% IPv6

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I'm ashamed at our countrys paltry 14% (Sweden). ISPs don't want to spend money exchanging routers. There's a per-country map here: https://www.google.com/intl/en/ipv6/statistics.html#tab=per-...

> I'm ashamed Slightly off-topic, but what should you be ashamed by something that is totally independent from you, that you can't control in any way? Personally I'm ashamed only if I do something wrong myself.

The whole point if nationalism is to have self-governance in order for people to be able to effect their destiny. If modern nationalistic governments are to be seen as distant and impervious, then how is that different from the imperial era? And if the people do have control over their governments, then why should they not feel shame over not exercising that power constructively?

Re: India is almost 80% IPv6

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post #13

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Why is it so hard to pull off the same regulation in other parts of the world? It isn’t like supporting IPv6 is black magic…

Indian isp are not using IPv6 though they seem to assign most users local Nat addresses my guess is looking how cheap internet is in India using real IPv6 addresses would increase internet prices

Can I ask you why? What makes using ipv6 more expensive?

Re: India is almost 80% IPv6

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Question to those familiar with IPv6. My company has /24 IPv4 PI blocks. We are not a LIR. Can I request a /48 or larger IPv6 prefix from my sponsor LIR (what is the largest IPv6 prefix that can be obtained this way?) Can such IPv6 prefix (not being a LIR) be further distributed to customers? (e.g. we offer some internet access) - afaik there were some restrictions when not being a LIR. I am not sure what the current…

If you're talking about the RIPE region, then; - Can I request a /48 or larger IPv6 prefix from my sponsor LIR -> Yes. Something bigger than a /48 might be hard, but /48 shouldn't be any problems. - Can such IPv6 prefix be further distributed to customers? -> No. A IPv6 PI assignment can only be used by yourself and your own infrastructure and not assigned to customers[0]. Other RIRs will have the information on thei…

Thank you. Just to make things clear, customer from section 7 also equals end user? That is, if I were given for example a /48 from a sponsor LIR then I am forbidden to divide that and delegate resulting prefixes via DHCP/PPPOE to end user CPEs to whom I want to simply provide dual stack internet access?

Re: India is almost 80% IPv6

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For the US, if I had to guess, ISPs have huge lobbying presence in Washington. Of course they won't want to make more work for themselves.

Is it the ISP's or holders of address blocks? I wonder how much all the IPv4's on Earth are worth.

They apparently go for 20-60$/IP. That can tell us something about why large IP holders don't want IPv6, it would reduce their 'investment' to near 0.

Re: India is almost 80% IPv6

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I'm ashamed at our countrys paltry 14% (Sweden). ISPs don't want to spend money exchanging routers. There's a per-country map here: https://www.google.com/intl/en/ipv6/statistics.html#tab=per-...

> I'm ashamed Slightly off-topic, but what should you be ashamed by something that is totally independent from you, that you can't control in any way? Personally I'm ashamed only if I do something wrong myself.

Usually when people say they are ashamed of their country/state/municipality/club etc, they are not mentally flagellating themselves averting gaze from the rest of the world while hoping for the ground to swallow them. It is a manner of speech.

Ok, maybe I should exclude clubs...

Re: India is almost 80% IPv6

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Nice. Can anyone from India comment? I imagine a lot of this is mobile, what is the v6 like on fixed broadband?

Seamless. I have multiple fibre and mobile connections. https://whatismyipaddress.com/ reports an ipv6 and ipv4 address for each connection. I had to do nothing on my routers, it just started working a few months ago. Edit:fixed bad URL

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