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Re: India is almost 80% IPv6

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Post by agsamek »

My story about ipv6 is from a travel. I connected to a friend's wifi. It worked for some time and then a strange thing happened. I was able to google but I was not able to connect to my company's services. I debugged the cause and it looked like the router received ipv6 address but not an ipv4. There was some tornado going around that might something to it.

This was the first time I felt like being on the ipv6 network. I also wonder why I was not able to access to ipv4 servers, I assume that in India people have no problem accessing ipv4 only networks.

Anyway - this was the first time I had to deal with ipv6 :)

On the business side. One ipv4 costs us $3/mo. We never had any problem with this, didn't feel any business reason to upgrade and in particular we (as most of the companies) do not have any permanent test of ipv6 connectivity going on. So even if this had been setup at some point, we would never notice a regression here.

So - unless our customers started asking for ipv6, government pushed some regulation or the address' prise would go up - I do not think we will do anything about ipv6, like most other companies.

Re: India is almost 80% IPv6

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Post by tmikaeld »

bouncingbunny wrote: post #20
tmikaeld wrote: post #11

I'm ashamed at our countrys paltry 14% (Sweden). ISPs don't want to spend money exchanging routers. There's a per-country map here: https://www.google.com/intl/en/ipv6/statistics.html#tab=per-...

I work at a decent-sized ISP in Sweden, and we've been trying to get IPv6 to customers for over 10 years. It's hard. The way the Internet is built (many municipal broadband networks[0]) means there's middle networks that might not support IPv6 (the reason used to be "no interest" and "it's not a priority"). PTS is starting to show some interest[1], we'll see what leads to. [0] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Municipal_…

That's kind of what I'm hinting at, the municipal entities assigned to handle the installation of fiber started this 20 years ago, which means that even 1Gbit is not the norm, the old 100Mbit connections are. I know a person that works at such a place and they have zero interest in upgrading their routers, because it would only cost money for the labour and equipment.

Re: India is almost 80% IPv6

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Post by wil421 »

9dev wrote: post #34
cypress66 wrote: post #22

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Because generally it would be a bad idea for the government to force certain technologies upon the private sector, even if in this case it might be fine.

Forcing micro USB and now USB-C on electronic devices has been one of the best ideas by the EU overall. Remember using ten different charging cables? Gone, due to a helpful piece of regulation by the government.

I still have the same issue as before except I’ve added a suite of USB C connectors. I still have micro/mini and regular USB devices on top of all the USB C stuff. Not to mention the premium for a USB C charger.

Re: India is almost 80% IPv6

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Post by KolmogorovComp »

candl wrote: post #15

Question to those familiar with IPv6. My company has /24 IPv4 PI blocks. We are not a LIR. Can I request a /48 or larger IPv6 prefix from my sponsor LIR (what is the largest IPv6 prefix that can be obtained this way?) Can such IPv6 prefix (not being a LIR) be further distributed to customers? (e.g. we offer some internet access) - afaik there were some restrictions when not being a LIR. I am not sure what the current…

Can someone enlighten me on the LIR acronym? Google is no help

Re: India is almost 80% IPv6

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Post by j16sdiz »

9dev wrote: post #34
cypress66 wrote: post #22

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Because generally it would be a bad idea for the government to force certain technologies upon the private sector, even if in this case it might be fine.

Forcing micro USB and now USB-C on electronic devices has been one of the best ideas by the EU overall. Remember using ten different charging cables? Gone, due to a helpful piece of regulation by the government.

Until someone updates the USB-C or PD standard.

Re: India is almost 80% IPv6

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Post by j16sdiz »

9dev wrote: post #34
cypress66 wrote: post #22

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Because generally it would be a bad idea for the government to force certain technologies upon the private sector, even if in this case it might be fine.

Forcing micro USB and now USB-C on electronic devices has been one of the best ideas by the EU overall. Remember using ten different charging cables? Gone, due to a helpful piece of regulation by the government.

Have you tried Nintendo Switch's USB-C charging? It is non-standard.

Re: India is almost 80% IPv6

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Post by mike_hock »

agsamek wrote: post #41

My story about ipv6 is from a travel. I connected to a friend's wifi. It worked for some time and then a strange thing happened. I was able to google but I was not able to connect to my company's services. I debugged the cause and it looked like the router received ipv6 address but not an ipv4. There was some tornado going around that might something to it. This was the first time I felt like being on the ipv6 networ…

The prices will go up due to scarcity.

The $3 are an early warning signal. You can start upgrading slowly on the cheap when you have all the time in the world, or you can do it for much more money and higher risks come crunch time, when you "see a business reason."

I don't have an axe to grind with IPv6 in particular, but I wish managers who consistently make short-sighted management decisions when the writing is so obviously on the wall, would face unemployment.

Re: India is almost 80% IPv6

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Post by api »

qalmakka wrote: post #18
yellow_lead wrote: post #14

Earlier quoted context omitted.

For the US, if I had to guess, ISPs have huge lobbying presence in Washington. Of course they won't want to make more work for themselves.

CGNAT is pretty expensive compared to rolling out IPv6 and tunneling IPv4 on it using stuff like MAP-E. I guess they still have no need to NAT everyone ATM because they have plenty of IPv4s to distribute to their subscribers.

That is correct. My ISP in Ohio gives me both IPv6 and global V4.

Re: India is almost 80% IPv6

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Post by SanjayMehta »

noisy_boy wrote: post #40
SanjayMehta wrote: post #27

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Seamless. I have multiple fibre and mobile connections. https://whatismyipaddress.com/ reports an ipv6 and ipv4 address for each connection. I had to do nothing on my routers, it just started working a few months ago. Edit:fixed bad URL

edit: already fixed by parent

Thanks for pointing out the lazy typo. Have edited my post.
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