Is early-onset cancer an emerging global epidemic?

Post by haldujai » Fri, Sep 09, 2022, 10:28 PM UTC

nightski wrote: post #205

haldujai wrote: post #148

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It would be nice to have this information to see if any trends are discovered (all of this is theoretical, I question whether measuring excreted compounds rather than stores is is relevant but that’s a separate point) however it is unclear what value this information will provide and seems unlikely it will generate anything actionable. With that in mind, it’s hard to justify the colossal costs that would be involved…

Hmm, you could use that argument to dissuade all of scientific research. Science is zero sum, if we devote resources to it then you are taking them from someone else! But at the end of the day we all know there are significant potential benefits to this type of testing. Not only that, more demand can increase jobs & labs in the first place. Just because the system is dysfunctional is not a good argument for ceasing p…

Post by caeril » Fri, Sep 09, 2022, 10:32 PM UTC

photochemsyn wrote: post #49

> "However, the effects of individual exposures remain largely unknown. To study early-life exposures and their implications for multiple cancer types will require prospective cohort studies with dedicated biobanking and data collection technologies." What that means is analytical body-burden data collection should be a medical norm, for a variety of substances: polychlorinated biphenyls, triazine herbicides (atrazin…

Post by adewinter » Fri, Sep 09, 2022, 10:39 PM UTC

caeril wrote: post #233

photochemsyn wrote: post #49

> "However, the effects of individual exposures remain largely unknown. To study early-life exposures and their implications for multiple cancer types will require prospective cohort studies with dedicated biobanking and data collection technologies." What that means is analytical body-burden data collection should be a medical norm, for a variety of substances: polychlorinated biphenyls, triazine herbicides (atrazin…

Don't hold your breath. One example: Coronary calcium deposit scans are cheap and extremely effective at giving a probabilistic window of possible future heart attack, but doctors don't order them prior to a CVD event, and insurance doesn't cover them as a pre-CVD elective. Instead we're told: We have no way of knowing if or when you'll experience infarction, it's one of God's Great Mysteries. Just don't eat eggs and…

Post by 10u152 » Fri, Sep 09, 2022, 10:47 PM UTC

caeril wrote: post #233

photochemsyn wrote: post #49

> "However, the effects of individual exposures remain largely unknown. To study early-life exposures and their implications for multiple cancer types will require prospective cohort studies with dedicated biobanking and data collection technologies." What that means is analytical body-burden data collection should be a medical norm, for a variety of substances: polychlorinated biphenyls, triazine herbicides (atrazin…

Don't hold your breath. One example: Coronary calcium deposit scans are cheap and extremely effective at giving a probabilistic window of possible future heart attack, but doctors don't order them prior to a CVD event, and insurance doesn't cover them as a pre-CVD elective. Instead we're told: We have no way of knowing if or when you'll experience infarction, it's one of God's Great Mysteries. Just don't eat eggs and…

Post by [deleted] » Fri, Sep 09, 2022, 10:53 PM UTC

cerol wrote: post #117

beebmam wrote: post #74

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> Cancer is easily explained from an evolutionary optimization perspective Anything that "easily explains" cancer should be thrown right out as unscientific. Cancer is many diseases, many of which are profoundly different from the others in both mechanisms of action and causes. I kindly ask that you don't use such confident sounding language, either deluding yourself or others into believing your statements as true,…

> Anything that "easily explains" cancer should be thrown right out as unscientific. Thank you. As someone who's recently lost a loved one to cancer, I've lost count of how many times I've wanted to choke people for coming out with these "simple cancer theories".