Tim Cook says ‘buy your mom an iPhone’ if you want to end green bubbles • Hacker News Board

Re: Tim Cook says ‘buy your mom an iPhone’ if you want to end green bubbles

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Post by pjmlp » Thu, Sep 08, 2022, 10:48 AM UTC

greatgib wrote: post #23

hulitu wrote: post #18

Earlier quoted context omitted.

There are regions in Central Europe where cellular data is not available.

Your argument is very weird. Most of the time, if you are in location without cellular data, it is that you don't even have a good cellular coverage. In that case, especially, people are used to always use wifi and so use WhatsApp, signal, telegram, Facebook, instead of unreliable sms. Also, if the goal is to have rich communication, like sending video and photo. If your network provider does not cover you for cellul…

Welcome to train travel in Germany.

Re: Tim Cook says ‘buy your mom an iPhone’ if you want to end green bubbles

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Post by Symbiote » Thu, Sep 08, 2022, 11:45 AM UTC

arinlen wrote: post #36

Symbiote wrote: post #32

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Don't generalise all of Europe without checking the statistics. Messenger is the most popular chat app in France, Scandinavia and most of Eastern Europe. WhatsApp has the rest. Except Viber in Serbia and Belarus. (Messenger is Facebook Messenger, everyone who has a Facebook account has it, though not necessarily in use on their phone.)

> Don't generalise all of Europe without checking the statistics. If you admit that WhatsApp is the dominant messaging app in the whole Europe except for a hand-full of countries, and still in spite of your admission you still try to pass Messenger as ubiquitous in Europe, you shouldn't be talking about generalizations.

I didn't "admit" anything, and I didn't claim Messenger was ubiquitous.

Re: Tim Cook says ‘buy your mom an iPhone’ if you want to end green bubbles

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Post by thesuperbigfrog » Thu, Sep 08, 2022, 12:31 PM UTC

bdcravens wrote: post #35

chaosbolt wrote: post #21

When your only innovation is a cut out hole and always on display, both of which have been on other phones for years, your only play is the color in which the messages appear.

I'm sure the ability to use satellite for emergency service in the event you don't have cellular service qualifies as an innovation.

>> I'm sure the ability to use satellite for emergency service in the event you don't have cellular service qualifies as an innovation.

T-Mobile and SpaceX are doing that with existing mobile phones:

https://www.t-mobile.com/news/un-carrier/t-mobile-takes-cove...

Re: Tim Cook says ‘buy your mom an iPhone’ if you want to end green bubbles

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Post by thesuperbigfrog » Thu, Sep 08, 2022, 12:36 PM UTC

This seems like typical Apple behavior.

They will probably avoid supporting RCS interoperability standards until compelled to by European regulators.

Re: Tim Cook says ‘buy your mom an iPhone’ if you want to end green bubbles

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Post by prirun » Thu, Sep 08, 2022, 12:58 PM UTC

I don't so much care that I can't send videos to Android users. But I do think it's shitty that Apple uses white text on lime green, which is very hard to read, instead of using black text on green.

Re: Tim Cook says ‘buy your mom an iPhone’ if you want to end green bubbles

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Post by wooque » Thu, Sep 08, 2022, 1:19 PM UTC

kioleanu wrote: post #7

How big of a problem is this in the states? In Europe, nobody I know, and I really mean I don’t know one single person that uses SMS or SMS-like apps like iMessage. If I open my messages app, I only have there my 2FA messages. It’s either WhatsApp or Signal

This, I don't remember last time I used SMS, everyone is using Viber, WhatsApp, Telegram here, Facebook Messenger is also strong.

Re: Tim Cook says ‘buy your mom an iPhone’ if you want to end green bubbles

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Post by hulitu » Thu, Sep 08, 2022, 1:46 PM UTC

greatgib wrote: post #23

hulitu wrote: post #18

Earlier quoted context omitted.

There are regions in Central Europe where cellular data is not available.

Your argument is very weird. Most of the time, if you are in location without cellular data, it is that you don't even have a good cellular coverage. In that case, especially, people are used to always use wifi and so use WhatsApp, signal, telegram, Facebook, instead of unreliable sms. Also, if the goal is to have rich communication, like sending video and photo. If your network provider does not cover you for cellul…

> Your argument is very weird. Most of the time, if you are in location without cellular data, it is that you don't even have a good cellular coverage. In that case, especially, people are used to always use wifi and so use WhatsApp, signal, telegram, Facebook, instead of unreliable sms.

I have WiFi only at home. At work i don't. Also there are shops where there is no WiFi nor cellular connection.

Re: Tim Cook says ‘buy your mom an iPhone’ if you want to end green bubbles

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Post by dang » Thu, Sep 08, 2022, 6:19 PM UTC

wly_cdgr wrote: post #4

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Would you please stop posting flamebait and/or unsubstantive comments? You've been doing it repeatedly, unfortunately, and we ban such accounts. It's not what this site is for, and it destroys what it is for.

https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html

Re: Tim Cook says ‘buy your mom an iPhone’ if you want to end green bubbles

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Post by smoldesu » Thu, Sep 08, 2022, 6:29 PM UTC

pjmlp wrote: post #34

Looking from the rest of the World where Android and feature phones dominate, the whole issue with the green bubbles is hilarious.

The whole act of discriminating text messages based on which brand of phone they herald from is ridiculous.

Re: Tim Cook says ‘buy your mom an iPhone’ if you want to end green bubbles

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Post by smoldesu » Thu, Sep 08, 2022, 6:31 PM UTC

lazyeye wrote: post #5

Tim is too busy focusing on growing the Chinese economy to be concerned with this kind of petty issue. https://www.theguardian.com/technology/2021/dec/07/apple-chi...

Skate to where the puck is going to be, human rights be damned!