>buy your mom an iPhone
Maybe buy yourself an Android. That should work too.
Tim Cook says ‘buy your mom an iPhone’ if you want to end green bubbles
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Re: Tim Cook says ‘buy your mom an iPhone’ if you want to end green bubbles
#12How big of a problem is this in the states? In Europe, nobody I know, and I really mean I don’t know one single person that uses SMS or SMS-like apps like iMessage. If I open my messages app, I only have there my 2FA messages. It’s either WhatsApp or Signal
That is not true at all. Even close, why does someone always spew this stuff here? There's billions of SMS messages delivered every day in Europe - from businesses to people who don't have Facebooks WhatsApp/Messenger preinstalled. Why is it so hard to understand that your little life bubble isn't the whole world?
I've lived many places in Europe and I'd say it's accurate.
It's not that text messages aren't sent, it's just that they are only ever a fallback for when primary communication channels are not available.
Pretty much everyone's SMSes are just MFA codes, "your pizza is ready", "your package is delivered", and so on.
Almost nobody that talks to each other regularly uses SMS.
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#13Earlier quoted context omitted.
That is not true at all. Even close, why does someone always spew this stuff here? There's billions of SMS messages delivered every day in Europe - from businesses to people who don't have Facebooks WhatsApp/Messenger preinstalled. Why is it so hard to understand that your little life bubble isn't the whole world?
I've lived many places in Europe and I'd say it's accurate. It's not that text messages aren't sent, it's just that they are only ever a fallback for when primary communication channels are not available. Pretty much everyone's SMSes are just MFA codes, "your pizza is ready", "your package is delivered", and so on. Almost nobody that talks to each other regularly uses SMS.
Again, that is nowhere near true and it's easy to verify.
And we didn't even get to the point that the communications platform used instead of an open standard is owned by a single corporation - Facebook.
Re: Tim Cook says ‘buy your mom an iPhone’ if you want to end green bubbles
#14In my corporate training, we're counselled to never refer to what competitors do, and particularly not to discuss affecting competitor sales (even braggadociously), matters of marketshare etc. to avoid running into risk of bad legal outcomes if such material were to be brought up in trial. Interesting how Apple does not feel compelled to hold itself to the same standard.
Is saying “no comment” really a better standard? Also, a few hundred billion in the bank might alter ones response.
We don't have hundreds of billions, but we are one of the largest companies on the planet :)
Re: Tim Cook says ‘buy your mom an iPhone’ if you want to end green bubbles
#15How big of a problem is this in the states? In Europe, nobody I know, and I really mean I don’t know one single person that uses SMS or SMS-like apps like iMessage. If I open my messages app, I only have there my 2FA messages. It’s either WhatsApp or Signal
That is not true at all. Even close, why does someone always spew this stuff here? There's billions of SMS messages delivered every day in Europe - from businesses to people who don't have Facebooks WhatsApp/Messenger preinstalled. Why is it so hard to understand that your little life bubble isn't the whole world?
OP is saying in context of "Grandma" and in social context - "Grandma" getting singled out because of her life choices (Android) in 1:1 chats with another human or in groups.
> ...'from businesses to people'..
You see the problem in your comment?
Re: Tim Cook says ‘buy your mom an iPhone’ if you want to end green bubbles
#16How big of a problem is this in the states? In Europe, nobody I know, and I really mean I don’t know one single person that uses SMS or SMS-like apps like iMessage. If I open my messages app, I only have there my 2FA messages. It’s either WhatsApp or Signal
Yep, 18 out of 20 of my top threads are delivery updates, 2FA, service updates (ISP data rollovers, for example), or advertising.
One of the "real" threads moved to WhatsApp after a couple of messages and the other was me forwarding one of the delivery updates from within the SMS app.
Sadly everyone I know is on WhatsApp and no one uses Signal.
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#17Earlier quoted context omitted.
I've lived many places in Europe and I'd say it's accurate. It's not that text messages aren't sent, it's just that they are only ever a fallback for when primary communication channels are not available. Pretty much everyone's SMSes are just MFA codes, "your pizza is ready", "your package is delivered", and so on. Almost nobody that talks to each other regularly uses SMS.
Again, that is nowhere near true and it's easy to verify. And we didn't even get to the point that the communications platform used instead of an open standard is owned by a single corporation - Facebook.
Really? I'm yet another European who only ever gets SMS from my elderly mother, for 2FA (usually only when dealing with American companies), parcel deliveries, and so on. Oh, and spam and frauds, that's like 75% of the messages I get.
Re: Tim Cook says ‘buy your mom an iPhone’ if you want to end green bubbles
#18How big of a problem is this in the states? In Europe, nobody I know, and I really mean I don’t know one single person that uses SMS or SMS-like apps like iMessage. If I open my messages app, I only have there my 2FA messages. It’s either WhatsApp or Signal
There are regions in Central Europe where cellular data is not available.
Re: Tim Cook says ‘buy your mom an iPhone’ if you want to end green bubbles
#19Earlier quoted context omitted.
I've lived many places in Europe and I'd say it's accurate. It's not that text messages aren't sent, it's just that they are only ever a fallback for when primary communication channels are not available. Pretty much everyone's SMSes are just MFA codes, "your pizza is ready", "your package is delivered", and so on. Almost nobody that talks to each other regularly uses SMS.
Again, that is nowhere near true and it's easy to verify. And we didn't even get to the point that the communications platform used instead of an open standard is owned by a single corporation - Facebook.
Can you show such verification?
I'm from Argentina and here absolutely nobody uses SMS. As parent said, it's only used for 2FA, delivery notifications, etc (although some companies here do 2FA with whatsapp too).
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#20Earlier quoted context omitted.
Again, that is nowhere near true and it's easy to verify. And we didn't even get to the point that the communications platform used instead of an open standard is owned by a single corporation - Facebook.
Really? I'm yet another European who only ever gets SMS from my elderly mother, for 2FA (usually only when dealing with American companies), parcel deliveries, and so on. Oh, and spam and frauds, that's like 75% of the messages I get.
Come to Germany. Enjoy the power of digital communication.
I work in a town close to the city center in a new building and i have to go to a certain window to be able to talk on the phone. To have cellular data i have to go out of the building.