What is "Manifest v3"?
I was wondering the same. I think it's a new standard for how Chrome extensions work?
I hope it doesn't affect FF users, and uBlock Origin will continue to function same as it always has.
“UBO Minus (MV3)” – An Experimental uBlock Origin Build for Manifest V3
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Re: “UBO Minus (MV3)” – An Experimental uBlock Origin Build for Manifest V3
#82I approve (of both the release and the name). I see plenty of folks in here lamenting this release at all - in the hopes that the lack of it will push folks to Firefox. It won't. Those who care about this are already on Firefox, and frankly - Firefox isn't going to be the answer here (to be clear, this is opinion). I'm also not thrilled at manifest v3, although for very different reasons than the adblocking limitatio…
I was fully in the Google world prior to gorhill's posts on manifest v3 as a direct result the only thing I have left is a pixel phone, which will be going with the new iPhone (and in the meantime my entire family has been 'helpfully' migrated too) I may be up the extreme end of the distribution, but this sort of grassroots push is what dethroned IE, and the resultant loss of control of the web eliminated Microsoft's…
Just install GrapheneOS on your Pixel and call it a day. You'll be better of than anything browser based on iOS, talk about software limitations...
Re: “UBO Minus (MV3)” – An Experimental uBlock Origin Build for Manifest V3
#83Just so I understand correctly: This version removes *all* of the features that read or modify a user's data, so as to abide by the ""stated intent"" of MV3, rather than taking full advantage of all of the actual MV3 APIs? For example, this commit removes the "scriplet injection" and cosmetic filtering features, which AFAIK work perfectly fine on MV3? if broad "read/modify data" permission is to be used, than there i…
Google is an ad company. The logical strategy is embrace extend extinguish ad blocking. If your extension is getting attacked and stripped of functionality minimal investment in keeping it working likely to continue to work the longest is logical
Re: “UBO Minus (MV3)” – An Experimental uBlock Origin Build for Manifest V3
#84Earlier quoted context omitted.
If adblockers can afford to pay for ads, that means they have a business model, and the one and only adblocker business model is "pay to play", where companies pay adblockers to allow their ads through.
Nagware/scareware (pushing subscriptions on users, possibly with misleading claims) is also a business model I've seen used. I honestly don't mind the "pay to play" model. It's a way to establish a healthy ad ecosystem. Ad blockers define what they consider acceptable, and collect money. They have an incentive to find a reasonable balance: The less restrictive they are, the more money they make, but the second they g…
> If uBlock Origin offered an ad whitelist that only allows ad networks that a) serve only their own JavaScript, no third party crap
Wait, why would an acceptable ad network have JavaScript at all? Maybe a minimal, pre-approved bit of JS to help the network understand where the ad is being placed, but even that is questionable.
Frankly, I consider it somewhere between bizarre and obviously wrong for any serious website that needs to follow HIPPA, PCI, or any other reasonable security standard to allow un-audited third party JS at all.
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#85Earlier quoted context omitted.
Please don't tell people to refrain from posting their analysis here, especially when their point is both clear and very logical. It would be better and much more productive if you would explain why you think that Firefox has a bright path ahead given all we know about it's management, strategy, corporate practices, and frankly raw figures about new installs / usage over the past 5 years.
Switching browsers is not some herculean task. Its like 15 minutes of "work" and a day or two of getting used to it. And your ad-blocker works.
Does Google autofill transfer over to Firefox easily? I'd reckon that's a big pain point for a lot of people when considering switching browsers
Re: “UBO Minus (MV3)” – An Experimental uBlock Origin Build for Manifest V3
#86Tangent but let's stop referring to it as a mere ad blocker, it's a content blocker - it's even a very useful and impactful accessibility tool in that capacity. ADHD sucks and I have a lot to thank to these types of tools for acting as my "crutches" that allowed me get where I am today.
I’d just like to interject for a moment. What you’re refering to as an ad blocker, is in fact, a content/ad blocker, or as I’ve recently taken to calling it, a content plus ad blocker. Ad blockers are not an extension unto themselves, but rather another downloadable block list for a fully functioning user agent made useful by the extension, browser chrome, and vital web engine components comprising a full user agent…
For the uninitiated:
Re: “UBO Minus (MV3)” – An Experimental uBlock Origin Build for Manifest V3
#87Earlier quoted context omitted.
I was fully in the Google world prior to gorhill's posts on manifest v3 as a direct result the only thing I have left is a pixel phone, which will be going with the new iPhone (and in the meantime my entire family has been 'helpfully' migrated too) I may be up the extreme end of the distribution, but this sort of grassroots push is what dethroned IE, and the resultant loss of control of the web eliminated Microsoft's…
IMO Firefox on an Android is better than anything you can get on iOS. It fully supports uBlock Origin! I also use a Pixel phone, though I use LineageOS so I feel less tied to Google
I came from Android, while I agree with Firefox + ublock supremacy, I've been using Sarai with Ad Guard Pro (VPN based) and it has been good.
Re: “UBO Minus (MV3)” – An Experimental uBlock Origin Build for Manifest V3
#88I approve (of both the release and the name). I see plenty of folks in here lamenting this release at all - in the hopes that the lack of it will push folks to Firefox. It won't. Those who care about this are already on Firefox, and frankly - Firefox isn't going to be the answer here (to be clear, this is opinion). I'm also not thrilled at manifest v3, although for very different reasons than the adblocking limitatio…
I was fully in the Google world prior to gorhill's posts on manifest v3 as a direct result the only thing I have left is a pixel phone, which will be going with the new iPhone (and in the meantime my entire family has been 'helpfully' migrated too) I may be up the extreme end of the distribution, but this sort of grassroots push is what dethroned IE, and the resultant loss of control of the web eliminated Microsoft's…
I think that what dethroned IE is that using your monopoly to maintain a moat of bugs only works for so long. If the browser is going to continue to be developed, eventually you're going to have to fix the bugs. By then, they were competing with Chrome, which was not bug-ridden and also backed by a juggernaut.
The grassroots push that dethroned Microsoft's browser was Google's browser (aided by Firefox's suicide.)
Re: “UBO Minus (MV3)” – An Experimental uBlock Origin Build for Manifest V3
#89Earlier quoted context omitted.
I was fully in the Google world prior to gorhill's posts on manifest v3 as a direct result the only thing I have left is a pixel phone, which will be going with the new iPhone (and in the meantime my entire family has been 'helpfully' migrated too) I may be up the extreme end of the distribution, but this sort of grassroots push is what dethroned IE, and the resultant loss of control of the web eliminated Microsoft's…
IMO Firefox on an Android is better than anything you can get on iOS. It fully supports uBlock Origin! I also use a Pixel phone, though I use LineageOS so I feel less tied to Google
I find firefox on android unusable because it has this awful, non-native scroll behavior.
On android I use either Brave or Samsung Browser.
Re: “UBO Minus (MV3)” – An Experimental uBlock Origin Build for Manifest V3
#90I approve (of both the release and the name). I see plenty of folks in here lamenting this release at all - in the hopes that the lack of it will push folks to Firefox. It won't. Those who care about this are already on Firefox, and frankly - Firefox isn't going to be the answer here (to be clear, this is opinion). I'm also not thrilled at manifest v3, although for very different reasons than the adblocking limitatio…
> Those who care about this are already on Firefox
I don't think that's true. Many, many more people would care immensely if they were suddenly deprived of good adblocking on Chrome.