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“UBO Minus (MV3)” – An Experimental uBlock Origin Build for Manifest V3

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Re: “UBO Minus (MV3)” – An Experimental uBlock Origin Build for Manifest V3

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Please don't tell people to refrain from posting their analysis here, especially when their point is both clear and very logical. It would be better and much more productive if you would explain why you think that Firefox has a bright path ahead given all we know about it's management, strategy, corporate practices, and frankly raw figures about new installs / usage over the past 5 years.

Switching browsers is not some herculean task. Its like 15 minutes of "work" and a day or two of getting used to it. And your ad-blocker works.

Re: “UBO Minus (MV3)” – An Experimental uBlock Origin Build for Manifest V3

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If you're still using Chrome now is the time to switch to Firefox. This is an interesting experiment but the only solution is to stop using Chrome.

Firefox still isn't a suitable Chrome replacement. Chrome may be beaconing half your browsing data back to Mountain View quietly in the background, but Firefox shoves its monetization strategy right in your face every time you open a new tab (Pocket, VPN ads, etc). Firefox is also drastically more complex in the UI and menus, and is missing a lot of UX niceties in the window and address bar itself (extra clicks to se…

Search all open tabs in Firefox: prefix your search with "% " (percent followed by a space).

Or don't, and it'll probably be in the list of suggested results anyway.

(Unless you're using container tabs, in which case it'll only search open tabs in the current container, which is sometimes good but usually a nuisance.)

I much prefer Firefox's address bar search heuristics over Chrome's, but it definitely depends on your usage patterns. Firefox is very good at suggesting relevant things from my history, to the extent that I will gasp actually close tabs now and rely on search to rediscover them, rather than forever accumulating open tabs that I might want to get back to.

Re: “UBO Minus (MV3)” – An Experimental uBlock Origin Build for Manifest V3

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Just so I understand correctly: This version removes *all* of the features that read or modify a user's data, so as to abide by the ""stated intent"" of MV3, rather than taking full advantage of all of the actual MV3 APIs? For example, this commit removes the "scriplet injection" and cosmetic filtering features, which AFAIK work perfectly fine on MV3? if broad "read/modify data" permission is to be used, than there i…

> this commit removes the "scriplet injection"

Considering this is stated in ManifestV3's announcement and that no APIs have been made for it:

> Beginning in Manifest V3, we will disallow extensions from using remotely-hosted code. This will require that all code executed by the extension be present in the extension’s package uploaded to the webstore. Server communication (potentially changing extension behavior) will still be allowed. This will help us better review the extensions uploaded, and keep our users safe. We will leverage a minimum required CSP to help enforce this (though it will not be 100% unpreventable, and we will require policy and manual review enforcement as well).

Scriptlet injection is as good as dead.

> and cosmetic filtering features,

Cosmetic filtering can only happen by making a service worker, that will turn on five seconds after the page has loaded.

> the "read/modify data" permission isn't getting removed by MV3?

No, but Google will heavily restrict any extension using this permission, and make the requirements to be published on their extension store so draconian that an ad blocking extension (which directly threatens their business model) has no chance of ever being accepted.

So, no, Google, as usual when they implement a new API, does half assed shit, breaks compatibility, forces everyone to follow on their bad decisions before deprecating it later. Going all in on MV3 is just bringing yourself to the slaughter, and MV3 should be laughed off by any serious extension developer.

Re: “UBO Minus (MV3)” – An Experimental uBlock Origin Build for Manifest V3

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I approve (of both the release and the name). I see plenty of folks in here lamenting this release at all - in the hopes that the lack of it will push folks to Firefox. It won't. Those who care about this are already on Firefox, and frankly - Firefox isn't going to be the answer here (to be clear, this is opinion). I'm also not thrilled at manifest v3, although for very different reasons than the adblocking limitatio…

I was fully in the Google world prior to gorhill's posts on manifest v3 as a direct result the only thing I have left is a pixel phone, which will be going with the new iPhone (and in the meantime my entire family has been 'helpfully' migrated too) I may be up the extreme end of the distribution, but this sort of grassroots push is what dethroned IE, and the resultant loss of control of the web eliminated Microsoft's…

Its kind of strange , but there are more options to block YouTube ads on Android than iOS.

Re: “UBO Minus (MV3)” – An Experimental uBlock Origin Build for Manifest V3

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I approve (of both the release and the name). I see plenty of folks in here lamenting this release at all - in the hopes that the lack of it will push folks to Firefox. It won't. Those who care about this are already on Firefox, and frankly - Firefox isn't going to be the answer here (to be clear, this is opinion). I'm also not thrilled at manifest v3, although for very different reasons than the adblocking limitatio…

I was fully in the Google world prior to gorhill's posts on manifest v3 as a direct result the only thing I have left is a pixel phone, which will be going with the new iPhone (and in the meantime my entire family has been 'helpfully' migrated too) I may be up the extreme end of the distribution, but this sort of grassroots push is what dethroned IE, and the resultant loss of control of the web eliminated Microsoft's…

IMO Firefox on an Android is better than anything you can get on iOS. It fully supports uBlock Origin!

I also use a Pixel phone, though I use LineageOS so I feel less tied to Google

Re: “UBO Minus (MV3)” – An Experimental uBlock Origin Build for Manifest V3

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First time in a while running Firefox on Mac, and I'm happy to report it finally supports bounce scrolling! In general scrolling is very smooth and performance seems excellent.

Nope, not here. No bouncing, maybe due to 'no animation settings' in display. Also, scrolling feels different. Different speed, different acceleration. Still doesn't feel native at all.

Something must be wrong on your machine. On my Mac Mini and Air (m1) Firefox scrolling is extremely smooth and feels much more native than Chrome. Overscrolling has worked great since they revamped the engine, even in nested scroll views!

Firefox's scrolling engine is so good, CSS scroll snapping feel more native than Safari's implementation (with chrome feeling the least native - too little friction and takes too long to stop moving on large scroll snap areas) [1].

[1] https://ppg.report/41.876,-87.624 for example of CSS scroll snapping that performs best on Firefox on Mac

Re: “UBO Minus (MV3)” – An Experimental uBlock Origin Build for Manifest V3

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I was fully in the Google world prior to gorhill's posts on manifest v3 as a direct result the only thing I have left is a pixel phone, which will be going with the new iPhone (and in the meantime my entire family has been 'helpfully' migrated too) I may be up the extreme end of the distribution, but this sort of grassroots push is what dethroned IE, and the resultant loss of control of the web eliminated Microsoft's…

Its kind of strange , but there are more options to block YouTube ads on Android than iOS.

I'd bet market share is the explanation ? Though it seems it's 50/50 in the US.
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