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Their freedom of speech isn't being denied is it? Their right to a peaceful life is being infridged but not their freedom of speech.
Kiwifarms goal is to remove the freedom of speech of LGBTQ people online. Is it okay for them to this?
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3 people are dead because of that site. What they were doing was a crime. Criminal activity is not is not protected free speech. That's like arguing carding and SIM swapping sites are just expressing their right to free speech and should be protected.
So why are they not being prosecuted if it was a crime? DDoS is also a crime, and equates to mob justice at best in this case.
https://blog.cloudflare.com/kiwifarms-blocked/ The cloudflare blog is a better resource on this topic.
Not really. Just allusions to bad things. The actual response from the site owner showed that it was likely an agent provocateur who used a dormant account, and then posted a screenshot to twitter. The post in question was deleted by staff within minutes.
The thing is, it's hard to feel bad for kiwifarms. They seem to be one of the worst sites there are. But freedom of speech/expression/opinions aren't about defending those who speech/expression/opinions you like but all of them. Personally, I think the site being shutdown is a good thing. But it's hard to look at the fact a few corporations can remove a website from the internet and think this is good for a free and…
3 people are dead because of that site. What they were doing was a crime. Criminal activity is not is not protected free speech. That's like arguing carding and SIM swapping sites are just expressing their right to free speech and should be protected.
Is Comcast getting any flak for providing internet to the KKK offices? Or their water provider? Is Netflix getting any complains for providing entertainment to terrorists? Or vodafone for mobile connectivity?
Why is it different for cloudflare?
The thing is, it's hard to feel bad for kiwifarms. They seem to be one of the worst sites there are. But freedom of speech/expression/opinions aren't about defending those who speech/expression/opinions you like but all of them. Personally, I think the site being shutdown is a good thing. But it's hard to look at the fact a few corporations can remove a website from the internet and think this is good for a free and…
And the "you" is meant as in general, or in this case Kiwi Farms.
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If freedom of speech doesn't protect Kiwifarms I don't see why we should put up with sex workers either. Either we should defend speech we don't like or we should make the world a better place.
The modern 'Net is demonstrating the ability to interpret abuse as damage and route around it.
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.. by speech. The whole thing relies on the loose causality of stochastic terrorism. It's a bit like the Nuremberg trials "only gave orders" defense, except they're not even orders, just innuendo - it's just spreading smear material and a general attitude of hate among a fractious, isolated and angry audience. A makes the post. B makes a fake phone call to the police. Cop C arrives and pulls the trigger. All in diffe…
Are you saying B is not a forum member? Because I'm pretty sure the people ordering pizza to targets are getting their info directly from the site.
Actual evidence of harassment from members of kiwifarms seems to be missing in all of these discussions. There is no doubt that there was lots of doxxing and lots of mean words on the site, but I haven't seen any evidence of harassment campaigns or anything similar. The closest thing that there was to evidence is someone who called in a SWAT team on a Republican congressperson and said to the police, "I am a kiwifarms mod, please come investigate me."
If that evidence existed, given the microscope this site was under, someone would have found it.
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So why are they not being prosecuted if it was a crime? DDoS is also a crime, and equates to mob justice at best in this case.
What mob is participating in this DDoS attack? Maybe vigilante justice is a more appropriate term.