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What about the freedom of speech of all those they harass and dox?

Their freedom of speech isn't being denied is it? Their right to a peaceful life is being infridged but not their freedom of speech.

Kiwifarms goal is to remove the freedom of speech of LGBTQ people online. Is it okay for them to this?

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What about the freedom of speech of all those they harass and dox?

Their freedom of speech isn't being denied is it? Their right to a peaceful life is being infridged but not their freedom of speech.

Harassing people (and their families and friends) off the internet is absolutely something that has chilling effects on freedom of speech.

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You can DDoS TOR it self, but not a specific service easily.

Complete nonsense. You can easily DoS a specific service by flooding it with rendezvous requests.

Wrong. It is very easy to mitigate (DoS) attacks on Tor, as long as you're happy to edit the source code.

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Stallman is right again…

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Kiwifarms was not a 'nazi' forum, it's so easy to tell who never actually lurked there or did enough due diligence to actually investigate for themselves what the site actually hosted lmfao

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The thing is, it's hard to feel bad for kiwifarms. They seem to be one of the worst sites there are. But freedom of speech/expression/opinions aren't about defending those who speech/expression/opinions you like but all of them. Personally, I think the site being shutdown is a good thing. But it's hard to look at the fact a few corporations can remove a website from the internet and think this is good for a free and…

3 people are dead because of that site. What they were doing was a crime. Criminal activity is not is not protected free speech. That's like arguing carding and SIM swapping sites are just expressing their right to free speech and should be protected.

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I treat these sites as cannaries. As long as they exist I can be confident that censorship isn't too bad, as they start to get shut down I start to worry. First the came for the X and I was not an X etc etc...

What about the freedom of speech of all those they harass and dox?

How do you feel about the washington post doxxing libsoftiktok? Did that violate her freedom of speech? Should cloudflare drop the washington post?

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Complete nonsense. You can easily DoS a specific service by flooding it with rendezvous requests.

Wrong. It is very easy to mitigate (DoS) attacks on Tor, as long as you're happy to edit the source code.

Go on, how do you plan to do that while remaining compatible with stock tor clients?

It's simply not possible for the server to distinguish between real and malicious rendezvous requests.

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I think you're being gullible here. Look at what was actually on that site and the many others that have been shut down rather than relying on reports from their enemies (oh wait, the whole point is to make it so you can't do this). When this hit Hacker news I actually went onto kiwifarms to find out what it was like because I suspected it would be killed soon. The descriptions given by most hackernews commentators d…

So you go to the source site _after_ the evil things they've done are reported on, and the site posted a rebuttal. And you think you're getting a true, unaltered representation of the things that occured BEFORE this happened? Bad take. > saw no organised harassment, doxing, brigading Either because it was now removed or hidden from public view. These activities have definitely occured on KF and just because you "don'…

It’s also possible its moderation process worked. Though I understand the skepticism.

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Real principled stance there from their CEO - 3 days to totally flip-flop? I mean, if your stance is we will ban content we arbitrarily find bad then just state it as such. Put into your agreement terms precisely what is and isn’t allowed. Be consistent. This “conflicted” act makes them look weak and of questionable leadership. Either take a principled stance on speech or put into your terms how you censor speech.

There are no solid principles, times change and people change. Would it have made a difference if a month ago they forbade websites that dox people?
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