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https://www.quora.com/Which-countries-imposed-a-travel-ban-o... https://qphs.fs.quoracdn.net/main-qimg-b39d6210ab7224d8434ca... look at this. India, back before 1991, had this printed on their passport. I dare any human rights advocating country to do this today against Israeli apartheid state?
I dare any Arab country to allow someone to enter with an Israeli passport! Or heck, even let their own Jewish citizens live there.
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I dare any Arab country to allow someone to enter with an Israeli passport! Or heck, even let their own Jewish citizens live there.
They are doing their part on protesting against apartheid so I don't see a problem.
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"Amazing what you can achieve by some legal shananigens" applies the opposite way. These are technically parts of Israel, but Israel is not really in control of West Bank, and not at all in control of Gaza strip. They are halfway and fully controlled by hostile terrorist organizations that repeatedly claimed that the state they are "part of" must be destroyed, and implied or explicitly called for genocide as part of…
They are not “technically parts of Israel” at all. Israel is righteous to defend its right to exist while at the same time denying the same right to Palestine and refusing the concept itself of a two-state compromise, never mind the only internationally recognised borders. This is part of Israel just as much as Kherson is part of Russia.
And no, self-determination here cuts the other way too. "Self-determination" is what Putin uses as a pretext to first say Crimea "wants to be part of Russia" (this is actually believable to me, knowing history and having visited there decades ago - but it still shouldn't matter, Crimea is Ukraine). Then they said "DNR wants to be part of Russia", and want to have a "vote" in Kherson to allow it "self-determination".
Same as with scum and warlords in DNR/LNR and Russian army, HAMAS/FATAH and their supporting dictators from Jordan/Egypt/Syria are just scum and warlords who rejected the 2-state compromise every time they thought they have enough force to crush Israel. They are pretty much carbon copy of DNR/Putin with their "self-determination" - except weak, so instead of invading they engage in propaganda to get the gullible in the West on their side, and do legal maneuvering.
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Do you support the "colonial settlement" of Indo-Europeans outside of the original Yamnaya territory, or should they all go back to the steppe and give Finns, Dravidians, Basques, etc. right to return? Should the English GTFO to Denmark/Normandy/... and give the island back to the Welsh/etc.? What about Turks, should they move back to Central Asia and give Anatolia back to Greece? If those are not your proposals, per…
Yeah its always funny when the defense of colonialism is 'ohters' did it too. The different of curse being that what we are talking about is much more recent and until very recently in living memories, with people still having the keys to the houses they were forced out of. And secondary that by now the Vikings stopped arriving in Engalnd, while the Zionists continue to steal more and more land despite their agreemen…
As for oppression in general, would you claim Israeli Arabs have worse life than Palestinians? I doubt it. Living under Israeli control in a peaceful way I'm pretty sure working much better for them.
On the other hand, in the name of belonging to a different desert death cult, i.e. out of pure anti-semitism, surrounding states sacrifice the Palestinians' lives. They used to just invade every now and then; now that they are weak they instead invest in brainwashing people like you. They rejected 2-state compromise more so than Israel, then they captured the Palestinian territories in 1948 war and controlled them for 20 years (were people then crying about occupation and oppression?) but that was not enough for them either, etc. They are not good faith actors and are treated really well by Israel given that - compared to most other states treating people in the same situation, including now (e.g. Myanmar). "Keys to houses" lol. They could have been living normal lives in Israel OR Jordan for 50 years. But no, in the name of "different death cult"/nationalistic propaganda they choose to suffer and make Israelis suffer.
"Literally ever year Israel is doing its best to import as many people as they can settle them into strategic territories" funny, when right-wingers say it its rightly called out as a racist conspiracy "replacement" theory. I am personally pro-immigration; but hey, I guess it's horseshoe theory in action :D
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But that's exactly what apartheid was: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bantustan
Israel has never set aside any area for Arabs or Christians. It is a democracy.
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Pretty sure he's well aware that it's a separate state.
Yes right now, but he doesn’t consider it to be. Hence invading.
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I mean the answer is pretty clear even for Europe. With ISIS committing acts of terror in Europe, it helps to have a country in the Middle East as an ally.
It's largely due to that alliance that ISIS even cares about Europe. The "alliance" itself is largely one-way - the US and Europe topple the government of any country that looks at Israel funny, and in return they get.. what? The usual answer is oil, but the cost of the Iraq war is estimated at $1.9 trillion [1]. Even if all of Iraq's oil industry was taken by the US, and its revenue was 100% profit that went entirel…
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Nearly all the Arab countries have since signed peace deals with Israel, with Syria and Iran being the only exceptions. No one is going to invade Israel. Palestinians should sign the last peace deal. They aren't going to get better terms.
Isreal has a well established history of not honoring treaties so I don't see why Arab countries would be expected to honor their end of the deal. The Palestinians will probably do the right thing and preserver until the israelis cross yet another red line. Let's just hope - for the israelis sake - that they don't cross a line to far.
The most obvious contradiction is that you think Israel will regret crossing the "red line", yet also claim that they are already crossing red lines.
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Citation for that stat? Like it or not, 30% of the world’s countries identify as Muslim majority and part of the Organization of Islamic Cooperation. None of those countries recognize Israel as a state. Just because a bunch of countries believe (or don’t believe) something doesn’t make it a fact.
> Just because a bunch of countries believe (or don’t believe) something doesn’t make it a fact. The statehood is all about recognization. Please check your favorite dictionary, e.g. mine says state·hood /ˈstātˌho͝od/ the status of being a recognized independent nation. When talking about such recognization, there are around 8 billion people living on earth today, out of that 8 billion real people, only about 1.5 bil…
Ultimately, states don't have unanimous definitions and just relying on a dictionary definition is not sufficient.