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Re: DALL·E: Introducing Outpainting

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Meanwhile someone has already built a photoshop plugin for Stable Diffusion that you can use today to do basically the _exact_ same thing: https://old.reddit.com/r/StableDiffusion/comments/wyduk1/sho...

Doesn't make sense to me why OpenAI has kept DALL-E closed source for so long. I can only guess either safety from misuse or leveraging it for money. At this rate though, Stable Diffusion is going to dwarf it

Re: DALL·E: Introducing Outpainting

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Couldn't happen to a more deserving group of people. Good riddance. Squatting the name "open" and trying to reap the benefits therein while being anything but.

I've been complaining for years about WikiLeaks not being a wiki -- no one wants to listen....

To be fair, it started out as a wiki, and they just never changed the name.

There's no CSS here but you can clearly see the MediaWiki template: https://web.archive.org/web/20090422103636/http://www.wikile...

Re: DALL·E: Introducing Outpainting

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This is just nonsense. I pay (a small amount) for both. They have different strengths and it’s fun to compare. Adding new features to a product is not a sign of panic, it’s just normal.

Dall-E so far hasn't been able to grow an ecosystem because of how restricted it is. Meanwhile Stable Diffusion makes trial-and-error and innovation around it easy, and as a result only 9 days after Stable Diffusion's release we see OpenAI release a feature that looks like a copy of a tool from the Stable Diffusion ecosystem. I agree that Dall-E isn't obsolete. I'd also add MidJourney to that list. All three are grea…

Except you are wrong. This feature was already available as part of the Dall-e ecosystem. There was a website called patch-e which facilitated this exact same workflow.

Re: DALL·E: Introducing Outpainting

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I think Dall-E would benefit from a "sketch-based" prompt in addition the text based. This was mindblowing - https://andys.page/posts/how-to-draw/

It does feel like art's disruptive "Calculator moment" is happening where you can now leave a lot of basic/mechanical tasks to a tool and give more focus to higher-minded problems. It's going to get so cool and interesting, I think. A lot of the conversation around art may focus more on composition and objectives of the artist in the new prompt engineering world, with less bias from factors such as rendition quality…

>basic/mechanical tasks to a tool and give more focus to higher-minded problems.

>rendition quality... [is] so incidental.

There's this thing in painting called 'mark making' and it can be the difference between an all-time-great painting and a throwaway portrait. Mark making speaks to every momentary choice of physical process a painter employs and reveals their thought process. For some of the greatest painters, it reveals their genius.

Do not discount execution. Overlooking "basics" and "mechanics" is what results in disappointing work.

Re: DALL·E: Introducing Outpainting

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I think Dall-E would benefit from a "sketch-based" prompt in addition the text based. This was mindblowing - https://andys.page/posts/how-to-draw/

Someone should name the next image generator OWL, since it “draws the rest of the owl”.

Cheeky:

https://github.com/hlky/stable-diffusion-webui/blob/master/i...

Re: DALL·E: Introducing Outpainting

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post #84

Meanwhile someone has already built a photoshop plugin for Stable Diffusion that you can use today to do basically the _exact_ same thing: https://old.reddit.com/r/StableDiffusion/comments/wyduk1/sho...

sama is very active in YC and makes the call on OpenAI product roadmap. Furthermore YC encourages good CEO-community relations. The fact that OpenAI is so far behind Stable Diffusion and has reduced pricing shows that sama wants OpenAI to be a highly profitable enterprise company. I.e. not “Open.” You can do both (e.g. Cloudera) but clearly sama is not strong enough at AI to make this happen.

Re: DALL·E: Introducing Outpainting

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post #84

Meanwhile someone has already built a photoshop plugin for Stable Diffusion that you can use today to do basically the _exact_ same thing: https://old.reddit.com/r/StableDiffusion/comments/wyduk1/sho...

Doesn't make sense to me why OpenAI has kept DALL-E closed source for so long. I can only guess either safety from misuse or leveraging it for money. At this rate though, Stable Diffusion is going to dwarf it

Wasn't OpenAI supposed to "democratize deep learning"?

It seems more like they were trying to accomplish the opposite.

Re: DALL·E: Introducing Outpainting

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Stable Diffusion is arguably better, has more features, and is free. OpenAI can't compete with free. Even if you don't want to take the 30 seconds to set it up in a free Google Colab environment, the paid DreamStudio version is still half the price of Dalle.

Running this at home is only free like mining cryptocurrency is free if you didn't buy your computer and don't pay for the electricity. Plus you can only run it on the computer that has the good graphics card, which probably isn't your laptop. I expect most people aren't going to be generating images all day, so using a cloud-based service for occasional use will still make a lot of sense. Stable Diffusion offers a p…

It does run on Apple silicon. 55 seconds in M1 Pro (vs 15 seconds on RTX 3070).

Re: DALL·E: Introducing Outpainting

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And every time I drag that little square reticle to fill in a 128x128 patch of an image, you can be sure it'll be a 15 second API call that I'm charged $0.25 for. Yipee! Very open.

Do you expect them to provide computing power for free?

Did we really get to the point that anything that isn't SaaS seems alien?

You know companies sold software that you paid once, and then ran as much as you wanted on your pc?

Re: DALL·E: Introducing Outpainting

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post #84

Meanwhile someone has already built a photoshop plugin for Stable Diffusion that you can use today to do basically the _exact_ same thing: https://old.reddit.com/r/StableDiffusion/comments/wyduk1/sho...

Doesn't make sense to me why OpenAI has kept DALL-E closed source for so long. I can only guess either safety from misuse or leveraging it for money. At this rate though, Stable Diffusion is going to dwarf it

> I can only guess either safety from misuse

I still don't understand what this would mean. Where are all of the terrible things that were supposed to happen, now that Stable Diffusion is available?

We've been able to create completely photorealistic fiction for decades now. See any movie with CGI for an example of whole worlds, and people, that don't exist. The bar has gradually been lowering (see the amazing CGI that YouTubers do these days), and now maybe there is a bit of a step function down, but being able to make things that aren't real isn't remotely new. I don't understand the fear.

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