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Remote startups will win the war for top talent

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Re: Remote startups will win the war for top talent

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I never really understood why people say productivity and socializing is difficult remote. It's difficult because people aren't putting thought into it. At my last big-co job the leadership just kept waiting for 'covid to be over' and not improving our remote work culture. Hybrid models will always struggle and 1/3/1 is going to be probably the best you can do. My company is fully remote, we embraced the GitLab model…

Where I work we used to do stuff during breaks, like play football in the park next to the office. Or fly around with tiny toy drones, or do other silly stuff. On Friday we used to have drinks, which more often then not resulted in a subset of the group having a bite to eat together. All of the above cannot be replaced digitally. When working from home you can decide to meet up, which does happen, but since it involv…

Right on. Not to mention that some people need that kick in the behind to get up and do some exercise, which commuting and being in the office definitely is one.

I have to clock over 3 miles in total going to my train and then the office, so I feel wired and alive when I come home.

Working from home ALL the time requires a jedi level of discipline to not eat like a pig and work out.

Re: Remote startups will win the war for top talent

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Polio, Monkey Pox, Covid variant x, environmental concerns, inflation. The office isn't coming back unless we fall into some dystopia where they force people back in. People had a taste of life WFH during the pandemic. Overwhelmingly they loved working from home even though there were a minority who wanted a return to the office. The hybrid model or remote work will be the only real possibilities going forward. Top t…

> Polio, Monkey Pox, Covid variant x I don't really think these are reasons to work remotely, at this point. Until we eradicate disease, we have and will continue to operate in a world with small but not-insignificant risk of disease transmission.

Im not taking a stance on disease risk. Im simply pointing out that many people will. And it will favor remote work.

Re: Remote startups will win the war for top talent

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I'm on an all-remote team right now and I totally miss the level of ambient information I used to have when working with a collocated team in a good environment. On the other hand, a lot of collocated teams, especially at larger companies, have bad enough environments that they're essentially remote workers as far as communication goes. I've visited plenty of teams in open-office environments where all the coders are…

You wrote: "ambient information" This is a brilliant term. I never heard it before this post. (Thank you!) My whole career is working next to traders and sales at global investment banks. Everytime I hear someone say: "Sales & traders can all work from home / [low cost] country X,Y,Z", I cringe. They fundamentally do not understand "ambient information".

Here I must credit Ambient Devices, maker of the Ambient Orb: http://www.ambientdevices.com/about/consumer-devices

It was a tricolor LED connected to the pager network that came out circa 20 years ago. By default you could hook it up to the weather, stock prices, and the like. What I hooked it up to was early Continuous Integration servers, so that everybody could see if the build was broken. It made a huge difference for some teams, where the build went from usually broken to usually green. Sometimes because people changed on their own, sometimes because executives suddenly had a thing they could understand about the room full of people typing furiously.

And yes, totally agreed. The best work I've ever done was in close contact with the people I'm serving. It can make a huge difference.

Re: Remote startups will win the war for top talent

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I'm on an all-remote team right now and I totally miss the level of ambient information I used to have when working with a collocated team in a good environment. On the other hand, a lot of collocated teams, especially at larger companies, have bad enough environments that they're essentially remote workers as far as communication goes. I've visited plenty of teams in open-office environments where all the coders are…

Hi. Great post. Thank you to raise the important topic of relevant ambient information. If you are pure tech writing new features for sales, you might want to sit right next to them. (Listen to how they use my software / interesting business problems.) However, if you are working on credit card payment settlement, you do not give a sh-t about sales team golf scores / "amazing" drinking stories. It is a bother / nuisa…

Yes, absolutely! Relevance makes the difference between information and noise. Relevant information is hugely powerful. But noisy environments just make for bad output.

Re: Remote startups will win the war for top talent

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"Apocalypse" is needlessly dramatic language. I think in 6 months we'll: - Unquestionably be in a recession - Have interest rates higher than they are today (i.e. cheap money does not return) - Major layoffs across the board at tech companies - It will be much harder to find a tech job after layoffs - Inflation still not tamed despite interest rate hikes and declining employment - Clear sentiment that this is worse t…

And I think your hunch is about as correct as your rationale for posting the M1 graphic without reading the note below it or noticing that it jumped 4-fold in a single month.

I'm well aware of both the note and the jump. If you think that increase is merely an artifact of a change in methodology then you should spend a bit more time researching on what you're looking at. The jump is quite real.

There's actually a good stack exchange post covering this: https://economics.stackexchange.com/questions/45886/has-ther...

As well as the FRED itself release and explanation: https://fredblog.stlouisfed.org/2021/01/whats-behind-the-rec...

> In late February and early March of 2020, the Fed cut its policy interest rate dramatically to help ease credit conditions during the COVID-19 crisis. The resulting acceleration in the supply of M1 can be understood largely as banks accommodating an increase in people’s demand for money.

This leads back to your original "money will be cheap again" point. It won't, since we're partially living in the consequences of doing this during covid. Inflation is being driven by many factors, but the FED will continue to increase interest rates to try to fight it.

Again I'll be more than happy to see you proven right but so far your responses haven't given me much confidence.

Re: Remote startups will win the war for top talent

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I've been working 100% remotely for about 6.5 years now. Overall I love it. However, there are very real drawbacks that have taken me awhile to fully realize. For me, the primary one is that it's _way_ too easy for everyone to get deeply frustrated with each other. Social interactions and chit-chat lead to a better understanding of people and a more accurate mental model of what people actually mean when they say som…

Regarding too easily getting frustrated over messaging, I have only one rule to avoid that and it's been working well for me -- Whenever any message threads that requires more than back and forth once over, hop on a Zoom call.

Re: Remote startups will win the war for top talent

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I worked in an office for a lot of years and I almost never, ever remember "commuting in anger". I basically did a comp-sci degree on the train to and from work, contributed to opensource software, caught up on work, read books , talked to colleagues, napped etc. It was actually pretty productive alone time for me. Forced quiet time for 3 hours a day. I was young and I had a 1.5 train trip each way to work. I built m…

> I was young and I had a 1.5 train > I built my career further and could afford to live closer to my office > it was still a 30 minute cycle each way > it was a 10 minute ride in a beautiful city Almost none of these apply to the average American commuter. Public transportation/biking infrastructure is poor to non-existent in most of the US. And the places where it does exist are usually the most expensive. For 95%…

America is a democracy and people should ask for public transport if they hate commuting so much. Which is interesting because people seem to hate driving but also not willing to demand better public transport.

Such a conundrum.

Interestingly, it seems working from home has largely killed the demand and focus on self-driving cars. I'm sure people are still working on it, but it definitely feels less important, at least on HN :)

Re: Remote startups will win the war for top talent

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"Your remote team is my company's opportunity." Purely anecdotal based on my own experience, but at my company we have some people who work in an office and lots more that work remotely. The in office staff contribute more ideas, work, fixes, and functional software than the remote teams by a factor of 4 or 5, or sometimes, depending on the in office worker, 10 times. Those are hard numbers right out of our project m…

there are now numerous unicorn startups and public companies that have been fully remote from day 1. All the most important open source projects have been developed by remote contributors.

95% of cases where I see people complaining about remote work is because the company basically changed nothing about how they operate day to day when Covid started, they are a normal company trying to work remotely. Obviously that is going to fail miserably. Hybrid model is the worst of both worlds

Re: Remote startups will win the war for top talent

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"Your remote team is my company's opportunity." Purely anecdotal based on my own experience, but at my company we have some people who work in an office and lots more that work remotely. The in office staff contribute more ideas, work, fixes, and functional software than the remote teams by a factor of 4 or 5, or sometimes, depending on the in office worker, 10 times. Those are hard numbers right out of our project m…

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