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Re: H1B rejected – builds unicorn back home

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Post by calculatte » Tue, Aug 23, 2022, 10:23 PM UTC

pm90 wrote: post #88

eldaisfish wrote: post #60

Earlier quoted context omitted.

be careful generalising india because anything that one can claim, the opposite is also true. A major reason countries like the USA and the UK flourish is stability. Stability is not something india has and that is a very difficult thing to put a price on. Indian capital markets are not transparent though that is less of an issue for startups. What should be telling is the number of "Indian" startups that are registe…

> I have to rain on your parade but there are many aspects of life in India that money cannot solve. I am no fan of the USA either but the "gun culture" thing is a strawman that doesn't affect daily life in the cities. It is certainly a problem but not a problem that many make it out to be. Be careful with the healthcare argument too. India's legal and police systems are a joke and their healthcare system is cheap bu…

> even in the bluest of cities

Are you telling me there is ACTUALLY gun violence in Chicago, Detroit, and New York? Well, knock me down with a feather!

BTW Someone needs to tell India to get a handle on their vehicle death culture. It is a constant threat. Children are being absolutely slaughtered in the streets by these assault vehicles and the numbers are only rising.

Re: H1B rejected – builds unicorn back home

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Post by cyanydeez » Tue, Aug 23, 2022, 10:31 PM UTC

dxbydt wrote: post #26

In the early 1990s when I came here, the prevailing wisdom was that its categorically better to immigrate to the US from India if you get a chance. India was too far back in the tech space, too much bureaucracy, corruption, red-tape etc etc... In the 2020s, the consensus is quite mixed. A lot of people I personally worked with, who successfully got their visas and green cards, have given it all up and gone straight b…

Aside from the same far right nationalists making headway in authoritarian, it probably would be great

Re: H1B rejected – builds unicorn back home

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Post by bombcar » Tue, Aug 23, 2022, 10:34 PM UTC

lotsofpulp wrote: post #180

wowokay wrote: post #121

Earlier quoted context omitted.

No this is not true, you can’t be denied medical treatment in the US even if you don’t have the ability to pay it.

Emergency medical treatment, right?

Yes, but if you “look like you can pay” you can get much more than that.

Re: H1B rejected – builds unicorn back home

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Post by drekipus » Tue, Aug 23, 2022, 10:35 PM UTC

pm90 wrote: post #88

eldaisfish wrote: post #60

Earlier quoted context omitted.

be careful generalising india because anything that one can claim, the opposite is also true. A major reason countries like the USA and the UK flourish is stability. Stability is not something india has and that is a very difficult thing to put a price on. Indian capital markets are not transparent though that is less of an issue for startups. What should be telling is the number of "Indian" startups that are registe…

> I have to rain on your parade but there are many aspects of life in India that money cannot solve. I am no fan of the USA either but the "gun culture" thing is a strawman that doesn't affect daily life in the cities. It is certainly a problem but not a problem that many make it out to be. Be careful with the healthcare argument too. India's legal and police systems are a joke and their healthcare system is cheap bu…

> even in the bluest of cities since there are Red States just a few hours of drive away

I remember reading somewhere that the statistics and likelihood of innocents being shot were more closely tied to "blue" and gun-free cities and states.

Is that not the case?

Re: H1B rejected – builds unicorn back home

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Post by bombcar » Tue, Aug 23, 2022, 10:35 PM UTC

ivalm wrote: post #255

pm90 wrote: post #101

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If you’re gonna wildly speculate then by all means go ahead and make up the most wildest shit imaginable.

It’s actually surprisingly close in absolute numbers. About 20k not-self inflicted gun deaths in the us, and 17k deaths by fire in India. Ofc per capita gun deaths>>fires.

The non-self inflicted is huge though, most gun deaths are suicides.

Re: H1B rejected – builds unicorn back home

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Post by SloopJon » Tue, Aug 23, 2022, 10:37 PM UTC

yardie wrote: post #9

Note this was in 2007, during the height of the H1B body shop scams. The USCIS visa system was overwhelmed by companies like Infosys and Tata just submitting 1000s of applications for clearly underqualified, yet cheap candidates for jobs that didn't exist. This writer probably got their visa rejected over a less qualified candidate because of the quota limits for H1b.

I don't know what Kunal's temporary work authorization was, but note also that the STEM extension for the OPT program has been tweaked in recent years, so that you can typically get three bites at the H-1B apple while you're still on an F-1 visa.

Re: H1B rejected – builds unicorn back home

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Post by fn-mote » Tue, Aug 23, 2022, 10:39 PM UTC

stainforth wrote: post #251

jitix wrote: post #113

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I worked in the US and felt that H1B status was very insecure so I tried to start my own company in India in 2020, and also explored the job and housing market. I agree 100% with all the great financial and work-related competitive points you've highlighted but I believe it misses the human and quality of life factors. Things that really affected my mental health in India during that time: 1. Food: Lack of variety in…

Sounds like those points are all ripe opportunities for startups of their own no? Just a matter of identifying market gaps, I'm sure that's why US companies have hired so many Indians, just simple filling of needs and not some other mechanic as to way the world works.

Pretty sure you forgot the /s but just in case: a startup to fix "power cuts, water supply and flooding issues"? Like "startup government". I guess that's what the gated communities are?

Re: H1B rejected – builds unicorn back home

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Post by yieldcrv » Tue, Aug 23, 2022, 10:39 PM UTC

dxbydt wrote: post #26

In the early 1990s when I came here, the prevailing wisdom was that its categorically better to immigrate to the US from India if you get a chance. India was too far back in the tech space, too much bureaucracy, corruption, red-tape etc etc... In the 2020s, the consensus is quite mixed. A lot of people I personally worked with, who successfully got their visas and green cards, have given it all up and gone straight b…

May I ask, how fast are the exits if I was to invest in India companies?

One thing that turned me off from US venture capital was the culture of delaying exits to the stock market, compared to the 90s when Microsoft/Netscape/Amazon all IPO'd at like $30 million market caps and rallied and there was so much upside and liquidity. Is there a culture like that in India right now, or something similar?

I really like how the Matic/Polygon team achieved "unicorn" status while in India and stayed in the scene (I heard they moved to UAE since). I don't care that its crypto, I care that its tech and moving fast.

Is the action just in Bangalore or is it all over or a few other tech hubs?

Re: H1B rejected – builds unicorn back home

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Post by WWLink » Tue, Aug 23, 2022, 10:40 PM UTC

lotsofpulp wrote: post #180

wowokay wrote: post #121

Earlier quoted context omitted.

No this is not true, you can’t be denied medical treatment in the US even if you don’t have the ability to pay it.

Emergency medical treatment, right?

Right. Anything beyond that nobody is obligated to provide. However, if you're in that level of dire straits there's almost always a way to get it covered. In most states, anyway.

Re: H1B rejected – builds unicorn back home

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Post by User23 » Tue, Aug 23, 2022, 10:45 PM UTC

Taniwha wrote: post #171

2OEH8eoCRo0 wrote: post #164

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What is stopping people from becoming citizens?

These days an H1B is the first step towards getting a green card, which in turn is the step towards citizenship

That's not actually true. H-1B is a non-immigrant visa. The confusion is somewhat understandable though. The reason why is that the H-1B program allows a migrant who does not currently qualify for an immigrant visa to work in the USA while they try to get one rather than having to wait at home.

It's kind of like hanging out in a fancy restaurant's bar in hopes that they'll be able to get you a table.