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Post by Taniwha »

2OEH8eoCRo0 wrote: post #164
yosito wrote: post #111

As an American from an immigrant family, I think the US is really losing here. We should be giving visas out liberally to any skilled professional who wants one. Immigration is the only thing that ever truly made the US stand out. On the other hand, as a global citizen with multiple passports who hasn't lived in the US for some time, maybe this is a good thing for the rest of the world. Spreading innovation out a bit…

What is stopping people from becoming citizens?

These days an H1B is the first step towards getting a green card, which in turn is the step towards citizenship

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Post by thehappypm »

jimmaswell wrote: post #165
thehappypm wrote: post #159

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It’s tough because many of our societal problems are only exacerbated by population growth, especially in the areas where these types of workers tend to congregate. Highly skilled workers don’t go to the Midwest or the deep south. They go and drive up rental prices in New York and San Francisco, where the jobs are. Well the first order effects of having a more skilled in competitive work for us are good, the second o…

> Highly skilled workers don’t go to the Midwest or the deep south. This is certainly changing. I myself am moving to a rural area to work remotely and farm.

The statistics don’t really bear that it’s happening at scale, but it’s great for you to make that change.

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Post by yuppiepuppie »

solveit wrote: post #155
aidenn0 wrote: post #144

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What always boggled my mind is we allow students to come study in the University system, but then when they graduate send them away. I suspect a platform of "We will train foreigners to enrich their homelands" wouldn't get much popular support, but it's the de-facto rule we live under.

The mental model many people seem to have is "foreigners will pay us exorbitant amounts of tuition for a prestigious diploma, and education isn't actually valuable so we might as well send them back home". And it's only mildly surprising people think this way. The median American does seem to go through an educational system that takes all their money and gives them a diploma without actually providing valuable exper…

What’s funny is that my (foreign) wife got her masters at a state school in the US with a US scholarship and was sent back after she graduated.

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Post by mywittyname »

jimmaswell wrote: post #162
yosito wrote: post #111

As an American from an immigrant family, I think the US is really losing here. We should be giving visas out liberally to any skilled professional who wants one. Immigration is the only thing that ever truly made the US stand out. On the other hand, as a global citizen with multiple passports who hasn't lived in the US for some time, maybe this is a good thing for the rest of the world. Spreading innovation out a bit…

Alternate viewpoint, we have more than enough students graduating in Computer Science and other STEM fields, many of whom have a hard time finding a job because most companies don't want to invest in training anyone up anymore, and they're enabled by the H1B program. If we incentivized/forced companies to build people up from basic college graduate again, it would be even better than finding skilled immigrants.

H1B employees cost a lot more to employ than fresh grads. On top of having to pay above average wage, companies have to employ lawyers to handle a lot of paperwork.

> most companies don't want to invest in training anyone up anymore

The past four companies I've worked for had training programs for new employees and internship programs to funnel college students into jobs after graduation. Maybe bad experience on your part?

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Post by manuelabeledo »

hunterb123 wrote: post #147
nine_zeros wrote: post #138

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> What is the processing time for European countries? EU is not one country. Some countries have better timelines than others. > What would your ideal processing time be that wouldn't be "criminal"? My ideal would be asap. Make the decision quick. If you want to deny most applications, deny it. But do it quick.

My point was to compare European countries as they were suggested by the GP to be better. Go ahead and choose one or so and come back with numbers to compare. You'll find the US is very good in comparison.

Germany offers a shorter and significantly cheaper path to citizenship, for instance.

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Post by [deleted] »

ALittleLight wrote: post #146
petilon wrote: post #87

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Australia takes in twice as many immigrants per year, compared to the US, as a percentage of their population. Canada almost 4 times as many. Singapore, New Zealand and Hong Kong too take in more immigrants than the US.

Canada and Australia both use a points based immigration system. Both countries are isolated from land borders that can be easily crossed. Contrast this with the non-points based immigration system in the US and tens of millions of immigrants from South and Central America. As I wrote - different immigration systems.

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Post by sngz »

yosito wrote: post #111

As an American from an immigrant family, I think the US is really losing here. We should be giving visas out liberally to any skilled professional who wants one. Immigration is the only thing that ever truly made the US stand out. On the other hand, as a global citizen with multiple passports who hasn't lived in the US for some time, maybe this is a good thing for the rest of the world. Spreading innovation out a bit…

as another American from an immigrant family. I think getting an H1-B should be easier, not tied to a company, and require companies to pay them more than a citizen. This prevents a lot of the abuse I see right now to people on H1-B's, staying with jobs that they hate, and prevents wage suppression in the industry for others.

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Post by _-david-_ »

giobox wrote: post #68
avasylev wrote: post #59

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Curious if you have example of racist US visa/immigration policy? There's a lot deserved criticism of current system, but can't think of anything specifically racist.

Green card quotas are based entirely on your country of birth. For example, a UK citizen can obtain a green card far, far faster than an Indian citizen. If a UK citizen and Indian citizen on an H1B visa start the Green Card process at the same time, the UK citizen will obtain permanent residency typically in 9-18 months. For the Indian applicant, who applied on same day with same visa and process, it will likely be o…

Nationality and race are not intrinsically linked so I am not sure how that is racism?

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Post by lotsofpulp »

wowokay wrote: post #121
amf12 wrote: post #110

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> their healthcare system is cheap but kills millions every year due to medical negligence. This is a problem money can solve though. If you have the money, you can get pretty good medical care in India. "cheap but kills millions" isn't really a problem faced by most people who have the money to afford it. > The US healthcare system - for all its flaws - has some of the best outcomes provided you have enough money to…

No this is not true, you can’t be denied medical treatment in the US even if you don’t have the ability to pay it.

Emergency medical treatment, right?
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