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Post by weatherlite »

wowokay wrote: post #124
weatherlite wrote: post #77

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The U.S has stability? Mmm not really.

It has been stable since I have been here? In fact all the issues that make the most $$$, gun violence, abortion, race relations, these are not a problem at the macro level. If anything it should be commended that our media and leadership has the luxury to complain about these “issues” that affect less then 5% of the population.

Stable for who, and how do you define stability? For you it feels stable, for some factory worker it's not great. But I was getting more at American politics - that feel to me like they've reached rock bottom (at least compared to the last 2-3 decades). Eventually a crippled political system will bring down the economy. It's very possible all things considered, and relative to Europe (or China, India, whatever), the U.S is doing good. But that's not gonna matter much to the average American citizen. There's no way Americans won't feel the political and economic mayhem that's coming the coming decade or two.

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Post by frontman1988 »

weatherlite wrote: post #82
sremani wrote: post #32

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People are making an error based on the past 20 years of debt binge and capital flooding that took over the world. When the FDI dries up, India is a very weird place. The energy costs will put a number in Asia and Europe in the next decade with dramatic food security challenges. Overall, at macro level, US beats India, but are there positive offshoots in some niches.. perhaps!

India is getting Russian oil pretty cheap now as far as I know, and most likely Iran as well. The U.S is not immune to the energy problem btw, Shale oil is getting more expensive because all the easy spots were already used.

India imports more than 90% of it's oil.India hardly has any natural energy reserves good enough for it's huge population. It's definitely going to be tough to fullfill the aspirations of 1.5 billion people who will have increasing energy demands while supply will be perennially limited. If per capita consumption of India even has to reach China levels, it's going to be a massive challenge even with renewables involved. Energy security of India doesn't look good unless they try doing something like the good old introducing democracy in the middle east.

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Post by screye »

thatfrenchguy wrote: post #56
paxys wrote: post #27

US immigration policies for Indian and Chinese nationals has been a blessing for their home grown tech ecosystem. There is no path to a green card or citizenship for anyone who immigrated in the last ~15 years, and the top 5% talent that used to come over by default is now working at or founding companies at home instead. This is directly correlated to the number of tech unicorns in these countries growing exponentia…

There is a path though, you can marry someone who is from any other country but India (even if they are not going for a EB-2/EB-3, have a green card, or are a US citizen). You can cross charge your employment green card to your spouse, some of my Indian colleagues have done this, it’s super rare because of cultural expectations though.

Yeah sure, let's go ahead and facilitate the 2nd biggest decision of your life (country you work in) by compromising on the biggest decision (marriage) of your life.

While dating across cultural groups to find the one, is rewarding in its own right , being that materialistic with your choice in partner is probably going to make for shaky foundations of a relationship.

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Post by aidenn0 »

yosito wrote: post #111

As an American from an immigrant family, I think the US is really losing here. We should be giving visas out liberally to any skilled professional who wants one. Immigration is the only thing that ever truly made the US stand out. On the other hand, as a global citizen with multiple passports who hasn't lived in the US for some time, maybe this is a good thing for the rest of the world. Spreading innovation out a bit…

What always boggled my mind is we allow students to come study in the University system, but then when they graduate send them away. I suspect a platform of "We will train foreigners to enrich their homelands" wouldn't get much popular support, but it's the de-facto rule we live under.

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Post by hunterb123 »

nine_zeros wrote: post #137
hunterb123 wrote: post #129

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> The system is unbelievably cruel. People die (or see their loved ones die) before they get greencards. People die before many things, that's not really relevant and it's just an emotional statement. Compare the length and rate to other countries for an actual assessment. A lot countries I've looked into take 5-10 years for citizenship, the US is 14.5 months on average. I'm talking about the amount of immigrants tak…

> Most countries I've looked into take up to 10 years. The set of countries you want to compare with are the countries that claim they want to welcome immigrants. You don't want to compare with countries that you like but are hostile. America claims to be immigrant friendly but compared to other immigrant friendly nations, the process is brutal and eats away entire lives. > A lot countries I've looked into take 5-10…

No 14.5 months is the average for naturalization.

https://www.boundless.com/immigration-resources/how-long-doe...

Total time is 18.5-24 months to wrap up everything, but the 14.5 months you're able to be in the US which is what matters.

How does that compare to other countries? What's your ideal country that has the best immigration times?

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Green card from nil is also just a year or so on average, in which case you are living in the US and able to work.

These numbers are very comparable and much better than most countries. Please provide your ideal country so we can compare numbers.

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Post by ALittleLight »

petilon wrote: post #87
ALittleLight wrote: post #61

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I think there are several countries, across North and Western Europe, Canada, Australia, New Zealand, perhaps Singapore and Hong Kong, that could compete with the US for "standard of living". These countries don't have similar immigration policies or histories compared to the US. If you think of a person who builds a unicorn as a national level resource, which makes sense because they create jobs, capabilities, and w…

Australia takes in twice as many immigrants per year, compared to the US, as a percentage of their population. Canada almost 4 times as many. Singapore, New Zealand and Hong Kong too take in more immigrants than the US.

Canada and Australia both use a points based immigration system. Both countries are isolated from land borders that can be easily crossed. Contrast this with the non-points based immigration system in the US and tens of millions of immigrants from South and Central America. As I wrote - different immigration systems.

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Post by hunterb123 »

nine_zeros wrote: post #138
hunterb123 wrote: post #136

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What is the processing time for European countries? What would your ideal processing time be that wouldn't be "criminal"?

> What is the processing time for European countries? EU is not one country. Some countries have better timelines than others. > What would your ideal processing time be that wouldn't be "criminal"? My ideal would be asap. Make the decision quick. If you want to deny most applications, deny it. But do it quick.

My point was to compare European countries as they were suggested by the GP to be better.

Go ahead and choose one or so and come back with numbers to compare. You'll find the US is very good in comparison.

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Post by [deleted] »

nine_zeros wrote: post #138
hunterb123 wrote: post #136

Earlier quoted context omitted.

What is the processing time for European countries? What would your ideal processing time be that wouldn't be "criminal"?

> What is the processing time for European countries? EU is not one country. Some countries have better timelines than others. > What would your ideal processing time be that wouldn't be "criminal"? My ideal would be asap. Make the decision quick. If you want to deny most applications, deny it. But do it quick.

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Post by ALittleLight »

FredPret wrote: post #115
ALittleLight wrote: post #61

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I think there are several countries, across North and Western Europe, Canada, Australia, New Zealand, perhaps Singapore and Hong Kong, that could compete with the US for "standard of living". These countries don't have similar immigration policies or histories compared to the US. If you think of a person who builds a unicorn as a national level resource, which makes sense because they create jobs, capabilities, and w…

I'm an engineer that moved to Canada. Let me tell you, I am here because they made it easy (or at least do-able) to come, and the people made it extremely pleasant to stay. In America, you also get the mostly immigrant-friendly culture, but it's orders of magnitude harder and more involved to get there. So it's not even on my radar.

Canada's immigration system favors engineers and skilled professionals. As the comment I was replying to put it this is a way for rich countries, like Canada, to drain the resources of poorer countries. This process benefits you, because you prefer to live in Canada compared to your home country, and it benefits Canada, because they get more professionals, but it hurts your home country who loses professionals.
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