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Re: An odd discovery on Spotify

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Post by Janiya »

rightbyte wrote: post #190
merijnv wrote: post #146

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> Happens to me a lot on Youtube too - you watch just one thing - and now your recommendations are full of things like that one thing. Spotify's recommendation system is much better than youtube's (at least for me). I frequently "joke" that it is one of the few applications of ML that actively make my life as a consumer better. Having been following Spotify's "Discover Weekly" for several years now, I'm actually real…

Spotify's algorithm works really well until you let someone else use the account. I wish there was a "child mode", "party mode" or whatever to disable updating recommendations.

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Post by hahajk »

vintermann wrote: post #129
dj_mc_merlin wrote: post #35

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> How on earth can Spotify distinguish real Fanny from fake Fanny? I can't tell if the post is serious or just a setup now.

Probably serious enough, since the album they describe exists. Spotify is smart enough to know that it isn't "the" Fanny Mendelssohn though - at least in the artist database. It could well be that Release Radar is dumber and is fooled by the matching name.

Or enough other people were fooled and listen to the "fake" Fanny, creating a listener correlation between the real and fake Fannys.

Re: An odd discovery on Spotify

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Post by midasz »

adamauckland wrote: post #215
midasz wrote: post #160

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As a father of a young child, Spotify's algo's are completely useless to me. If their ML is so smart it should be able to determine that Row row row your boat doesn't mix well with Anthrax. Wish I'd be able to toggle 'don't recommend kids music' somewhere.

Can't really complain if they offer Spotify Family which gives you 6 separate premium accounts, I think it's only double the cost of a normal Spotify account.

So the solution is paying double so I can log out of my own account and into an account I created for my 2 year old so we can listen to a disney song? And when I want to listen to my own songs again then I have to log out of my kids account and back into my own?

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Post by DownGoat »

INTPenis wrote: post #81
jeremyjh wrote: post #80

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It costs money to run the streams but Spotify pays some of that back out to the "artists"; that money sounds plausibly pretty clean. Until there was a thread at the top of HN about it and everyone suddenly knew how it worked. Of course GP might just be a GPT3 experiment...

What does it cost an artist to run a stream? I thought Spotify hosted the content. Do you mean it costs money to run the bots that listen to the stream and get the artist recommended and heard by more people?

There are services that offer bots that increases your listening count on Spotify. People with dirty money create a bunch of artists and songs on Spotify, and use the services to increase the listening count. Spotify pay out royalties based on those numbers. So they pay the service with dirty money, and get clean money from Spotify

Re: An odd discovery on Spotify

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Post by midasz »

hakanensari wrote: post #232
midasz wrote: post #160

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As a father of a young child, Spotify's algo's are completely useless to me. If their ML is so smart it should be able to determine that Row row row your boat doesn't mix well with Anthrax. Wish I'd be able to toggle 'don't recommend kids music' somewhere.

Don't these end up in separate mixes, though? My 13 year old makes a lot of grime requests on road trips etc. and now I have a separate grime mix under my top mixes.

It does it relatively OK with the daily mixes, but daily drive and top of the year don't. That's why I don't really get it, they already know fairly well what kids music is so let me just toggle it off?

Re: An odd discovery on Spotify

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Post by probably_wrong »

AlecSchueler wrote: post #226
probably_wrong wrote: post #194

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I used Spotify to play music at a children's party. I am still getting recommendations for "Happy Birthday" months later. According to Spotify, it goes very well with Sheryl Crow and R.E.M.

Can be helpful to turn off watch history during such sessions, or to remove the videos from your history afterwards. Agreed that there should be an automated solution, but you can avoid it today will a small amount of work.

Are we talking about the same Spotify? Because the only reference I found to removing songs from my recommendations is a thread from 2020 that says it is not possible.

https://community.spotify.com/t5/Accounts/How-do-I-delete-my...

Re: An odd discovery on Spotify

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Post by hokkos »

So I played a few of those song into shazam and it gave me others similar songs :

https://open.spotify.com/track/35lnhh0LCDZOu10Lasv6bi?si=257...

and lots of others that were not on spotify :

Boss Through the Author by MemethSoyal

Ariya Saunders by Raphy Fraser

So it means it is possible to catch them, and spotify is probably actively trying to remove them.

Re: An odd discovery on Spotify

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Post by 867-5309 »

hakanensari wrote: post #232
midasz wrote: post #160

Earlier quoted context omitted.

As a father of a young child, Spotify's algo's are completely useless to me. If their ML is so smart it should be able to determine that Row row row your boat doesn't mix well with Anthrax. Wish I'd be able to toggle 'don't recommend kids music' somewhere.

Don't these end up in separate mixes, though? My 13 year old makes a lot of grime requests on road trips etc. and now I have a separate grime mix under my top mixes.

driving to grime sounds like hell, that's parental dedication right there

Re: An odd discovery on Spotify

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Post by projektfu »

zone411 wrote: post #43
caseyross wrote: post #20

With the success of AI content generation for text (GPT-3 etc.) and images (DALL-E etc.), it seems inevitable that music will soon be targeted as well, if not already. What's particularly interesting in the music sphere is that there are already well-established trends towards building a sort of ambient, atmospheric, generated soundscape. (For example, the famous "Lo-Fi girl" stream.) AI-generated content is a very n…

Yes, it's inevitable. Some parts of this process are harder than than others, though. I think I've handled the hardest part, which is making catchy melodies ( https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLoCzMRqh5SkFwkumE578Y... ). Live music is already over 50% of music industry revenue, so the transition could be a bit easier for musicians than for visual artists.

The melody style reminds me of a songbook I have of Tin Pan Alley songs.

Re: An odd discovery on Spotify

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Post by Cthulhu_ »

irrational wrote: post #138
DecoPerson wrote: post #7

In the “Release Radar” generated for me last week, there was a 40 second song consisting of rhythmic mechanical noises with a strange title and album art of an alien head. I didn’t like it at all. I think it was recommended to me because the publisher listed its artist as “Fanny Mendelssohn” — a classical composer whose work I definitely enjoy and have probably pressed “Like” a few times on — even though the song had…

What if there was a new artist with the same name? Not too crazy. There was another kid in our high school with the exact same first, middle and last name as my brother. No relation.

It happens; what last.fm would do is add the country of origin to the band, like Shining and Shining (nor) to differentiate the Swedish depressive black metal band and the Norwegian extreme avant-garde jazz metal band.
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