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An odd discovery on Spotify

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Re: An odd discovery on Spotify

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> A single kitchen operating under many names to increase its algorithmic “surface area”; another shape of things to come. I find this infuriating. There's one dominican restaurant in my city that's listed on DoorDash, Grubhub and UberEats under over 20 different names with different subsets of their menu. All of these duplicate listings for the same place make it harder to search or browse the actual restaurant opti…

It's just SEO I think

Re: An odd discovery on Spotify

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> A single kitchen operating under many names to increase its algorithmic “surface area”; another shape of things to come. I find this infuriating. There's one dominican restaurant in my city that's listed on DoorDash, Grubhub and UberEats under over 20 different names with different subsets of their menu. All of these duplicate listings for the same place make it harder to search or browse the actual restaurant opti…

(Shrug) This is how hotel restaurants, including some very good ones, have always worked. What difference does it make what other ethnicities/varieties of food the restaurant delivers?

What? Hotel restaurants have always convincingly appeared to people as 20 different restaurants while operating at the same physical location? A place serving a lot of different types of food is not the same thing, it's still one restaurant and they're not making any effort to hide that from the hotel guests.

The multitudes of different places at Disneyworld that all operate out of the same massive underground/hidden kitchen complex might be a better example.

Re: An odd discovery on Spotify

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post #17

> A single kitchen operating under many names to increase its algorithmic “surface area”; another shape of things to come. I find this infuriating. There's one dominican restaurant in my city that's listed on DoorDash, Grubhub and UberEats under over 20 different names with different subsets of their menu. All of these duplicate listings for the same place make it harder to search or browse the actual restaurant opti…

Haha, right on. I love me some Indian food, and there's ten different Indian "restaurants" near me, all located at the same address. I looked it up on Google Maps, and it's basically a hole-in-the-wall restaurant space that can barely hold one restaurant, never mind ten. Yet Grubhub et al. don't seem to care one way or another

There's also ghost kitchens cranking out food for delivery without any traditional restaurant space at all.

Here's a commercial ghost kitchen explanation to restaurateurs:

https://cloudkitchens.com/blog/ultimate-guide-to-ghost-kitch...

Re: An odd discovery on Spotify

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In the “Release Radar” generated for me last week, there was a 40 second song consisting of rhythmic mechanical noises with a strange title and album art of an alien head. I didn’t like it at all. I think it was recommended to me because the publisher listed its artist as “Fanny Mendelssohn” — a classical composer whose work I definitely enjoy and have probably pressed “Like” a few times on — even though the song had…

> How on earth can Spotify distinguish real Fanny from fake Fanny?

I can't tell if the post is serious or just a setup now.

Re: An odd discovery on Spotify

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Here is an analysis of the playlist:

https://www.chosic.com/spotify-playlist-analyzer/?plid=2IaWg...

Interesting to notice that even when there are only little variations on the same song, the analysis (which is powered by the Spotify API) shows very different indicators for each of the songs in danceability, accousticness, valence, etc. This makes rather unexpected that all those songs could come together in a recomendation system.

Re: An odd discovery on Spotify

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post #28

People have been noticing this a lot recently but what nobody seems to know is that this is a form of money laundering/“scamming.” I know because I used to be active on crime forums and talked to some of the people who engineered this scheme. People will set up fake Spotify artist accounts with stolen identities and bank accounts, pay a musician for songs that pass as music, and then bot millions of streams on them.…

Is the idea that you spend dirty money on the bots in order to earn clean money on the fake artist accounts?

Re: An odd discovery on Spotify

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

> on account of being long-deceased and all posthumous releases are a thing

Not really for the likes of Fanny Mendelssohn.

Fanny Mendelssohn was personally involved in roughly 0% of the recordings that come up on Spotify when you search for her name, but I'd bet any fan of hers would be OK being recommended most of those recordings, or most any new ones that came out using her as a search term.

Classical music categorization (where the composer of the music is often of more interest than the performer) is very difficult to reconcile with pop music (where the opposite is more likely to be true).

Re: An odd discovery on Spotify

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post #28

People have been noticing this a lot recently but what nobody seems to know is that this is a form of money laundering/“scamming.” I know because I used to be active on crime forums and talked to some of the people who engineered this scheme. People will set up fake Spotify artist accounts with stolen identities and bank accounts, pay a musician for songs that pass as music, and then bot millions of streams on them.…

Fascinating. It's so simple and makes so much sense, and replicable on any service that trades eyeballs (or ears in this case) for cash.

Re: An odd discovery on Spotify

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Not really for the likes of Fanny Mendelssohn.

This is incorrect, but it's principally incorrect because we all abuse the artist field to contain composer information. This is done, I surmise, because figuring out when to display the composer information (performances of composed works) and when not to (bands) is too hard while delivering consistent UX.

It could be as simple as another piece of metadata on the track.
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