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Re: The erosion of the Mac experience

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People customizing their own machines to suit their needs is in fact a good UX as long as they enjoy it

If you take the doors off of a small city car to make it quicker to get in and out of at the expense of keeping thieves and the weather out, is that good UX?

You'd prefer a car that can't be repaired I suppose.

Re: The erosion of the Mac experience

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If you take the doors off of a small city car to make it quicker to get in and out of at the expense of keeping thieves and the weather out, is that good UX?

You'd prefer a car that can't be repaired I suppose.

I use Linux, and my whole family drives classic cars and kit cars. My father ran a garage at one point.

My point is that what's on /r/unixporn is predominantly gimmicky nonsense, precious little useful ideas. I'm not blinkered to seeing what's style and what's substance.

Re: The erosion of the Mac experience

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> Macs used to be for professionals Makes you wonder who is then buying these expensive MacBook Pros, Mac Studios and Mac Pros. I guess it's those grandmas needing 28 cores for their recipes.

Seems like you're joking but I know far too many people who have bought a garbage $300 windows laptop, absolutely hated it, then they bought a $2000 MacBook Pro. They always mention how much nicer the Mac is than their old Windows laptop but never mention that they bought a bargain-bin Windows laptop and a modern flagship Mac. Even if I try to advise them to to just get a Windows laptop in the $800 range or so, they…

That's a lot like people saying android is slow and laggy when they bought the cheapest one they could find at target and compared it to a thousand dollar iPhone.

Re: The erosion of the Mac experience

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The students have to develop software using the framework, not just use the final program. I always found docker as a dev environment rather painful. Maybe I have to revisit.

> I always found docker as a dev environment rather painful. I’ve found the following to work quite well: Have a docker compose file setup that runs a container with all the necessary build tools and anything else. Map home directories, /opt and anything else you want to persist as named volumes. Run docker compose up -d Use the remote development extension of vscode to connect to the container and develop almost as…

This is a neat idea.

Re: The erosion of the Mac experience

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The key point in this Twitter rant is that the SWEs who understood the Mac (and NEXTSTEP, for that matter) have aged out. Most everyone has retired or moved onto other opportunities. There's very few of them left at Apple. And they're often overruled by younger managers. Apple is hiring tons of fresh new SWEs who have no understanding, nor desire to understand "The Mac Way". I'm not saying this is right or wrong, the…

Moved on to where? Windows has adverts in the start menu! Desktop Linux GUI is still painful and really only suitable for those who love to tinker. Since I moved to Mac from Windows I’m thankful for macOS even if it could be better, it’s still much more usable than the alternatives. I find myself spending more time on my professional work and less time fixing driver issues or fighting annoying in OS ads.

On both of my last companies linux was the default desktop and not many issues arises from it .

Re: The erosion of the Mac experience

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Actually I got this mixed up with taking a screenshot, which kinda proves my point because I had to Google to find this out. Also no one can say CMD+shift+5 is intuitive to take a screenshot, prtsrn is much easier.

pretty subjective

Of course it is, that's been my point throughout. Every argument here is subjective. It's all based on experience and anecdote. Most people who use Macs seem to think their experience is somehow an objective truth, its not.

I use a Linux desktop and have no issues whatsoever and never have to tinker with it, nothings ever broken; I experience none of the usual tropes people roll out as reasons they don't use Linux on desktop instead of Mac OS. And similarly when using Mac OS I experience none of the "amazing" user experience touted as the reasons everybody should use it.

My experience is no less valid then anyone elses and also no more objective either.

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Unless of course you're talking about the screenshot keyboard combo for taking a screenshot? In which case I'd hazard that pressing one button named "Print Screen" is objectively more intuitive that 3 buttons with no obvious connection to the job at hand.

Re: The erosion of the Mac experience

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post #43

The key point in this Twitter rant is that the SWEs who understood the Mac (and NEXTSTEP, for that matter) have aged out. Most everyone has retired or moved onto other opportunities. There's very few of them left at Apple. And they're often overruled by younger managers. Apple is hiring tons of fresh new SWEs who have no understanding, nor desire to understand "The Mac Way". I'm not saying this is right or wrong, the…

Moved on to where? Windows has adverts in the start menu! Desktop Linux GUI is still painful and really only suitable for those who love to tinker. Since I moved to Mac from Windows I’m thankful for macOS even if it could be better, it’s still much more usable than the alternatives. I find myself spending more time on my professional work and less time fixing driver issues or fighting annoying in OS ads.

I've rarely found myself getting all that tied up in solving driver issues in linux especially after the first week of ownership of a new machine. Fighting annoying in OS ads, again, really a first week of ownership sort of thing.

Linux I find what's painful about it is that some things will always be kind of broken, for me it was bluetooth, I used bluetooth all the time, it did work, but I had to fight it into submission fucking daily. Windows? My goto example of what a shitshow windows is by far is the incoherent settings menus, and generally whereas Android and iOS and MacOS and Linux and all the OSes people actually use follow a lot of similar conventions Microsoft is SUPER SPECIAL and of course must do everything in their own unique way.

Re: The erosion of the Mac experience

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Large-ish tech companies in Sweden.

Absolutely not my experience from Scandinavian companies (Volvo, Ericsson, Saab, ABB,...)

Industry/hard engineering companies here do tend to go Linux on their SWE machines, I've interacted with multiple SWEs from Volvo and Ericsson on some of my employers' projects (again, including pairing sessions) and none of them were Windows users. Mostly Linux and Mac.

Software companies do skew extremely into Mac territory, I really don't recall anyone ever using a Windows machine and very few run their ThinkPads with Linux, the vast majority have a Mac as a daily driver.

Re: The erosion of the Mac experience

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post #450

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The students have to develop software using the framework, not just use the final program. I always found docker as a dev environment rather painful. Maybe I have to revisit.

> I always found docker as a dev environment rather painful. I’ve found the following to work quite well: Have a docker compose file setup that runs a container with all the necessary build tools and anything else. Map home directories, /opt and anything else you want to persist as named volumes. Run docker compose up -d Use the remote development extension of vscode to connect to the container and develop almost as…

vscode's remote dev is indeed god-tier. I love vscode.
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