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Re: MacBook Air M1 screen crack for no apparent reason

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Post by trophycase » Mon, Aug 15, 2022, 9:41 PM UTC

maerF0x0 wrote: post #50

> it is frustrating that apple doesn’t believe its costumers. What's notable here is there is 49 pages of seemingly mostly "me too". It should give Apple at the very least pause for reevaluation of their stance. One guy saying "I didn't do it man" is not evidence, but a clearly non coordinated global trend of people claiming the same thing? Pretty compelling.

They likely know and don't care. My old macbook pro updated to the latest OS and it completely bricked the machine. Every time I'd try to watch a video the thing would overheat. Reverted the OS and the issue was completely fixed.

Bought a new iphone recently and the camera simply can't focus at short range.

Re: MacBook Air M1 screen crack for no apparent reason

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Post by amelius » Mon, Aug 15, 2022, 9:41 PM UTC

wizofaus wrote: post #4

scottydelta wrote: post #3

Apple has always tried to blame customers whenever they can. I remember when my MacBook pro 2015 started glitching and Apple voided the warranty by saying there was liquid spillage/fluid damage. So apparently macbooks have these small stickers inside them which change color upon contact with liquids to help detect liquid damage but the issue with those stickers are that they also change color if you live in a humid a…

A warranty that can be voided just because some little sticker a user can't access indicates moisture detection doesn't even sound like it should be legal. If you've done something obviously stupid like drop your monitor in the bath then you're hardly going to need such a sticker to detect "unreasonable use". It seems pretty reasonable to expect consumer goods to tolerate small amounts of moisture. In fact a monitor…

Why aren't these things waterproof anyway?

Re: MacBook Air M1 screen crack for no apparent reason

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Post by jabbany » Mon, Aug 15, 2022, 9:41 PM UTC

umvi wrote: post #72

thomas-st wrote: post #61

My 14" M1 MacBook Pro screen repair cost was $809. Supervisor refused the waive the fee. The screen cracked for no apparent reason and then completely stopped working. Some firm already filed a class action complaint, and I submitted my details: https://classlawdc.com/2021/08/04/m1-macbook-screen-crack-in...

> My 14" M1 MacBook Pro repair cost was $809 My custom Ryzen 7/RX 570 Linux PC built from parts cost less than this, so a repair of this magnitude just boggles my mind. At that point just buy yourself a new computer.

Actually it really isn't.

The more expensive something is the higher the ongoing costs to maintain it. It's the same case with cars where more expensive ones are also more costly to maintain and fix.

When people buy a more luxury item, it's because there is something about the item that they value where no cheaper equivalent exists. MacBooks certainly have several such features: quality of display, ecosystem integration, form factor, battery life, speakers, aesthetics... These things might not be the same things you value, but for those who care it's just as important. This is also why some people buy luxury cars and others just get the cheapest whatever that gets them from A to B.

FWIW, I run an HP Ryzen laptop that cost me just $350. But I do so because the 2h battery, non-HDR (and probably not even 100% sRGB) 1080p screen, lackluster speaker, and "borderline serviceable" trackpad don't bother me at all. I would not buy a MacBook as it offers no features I care about at a significantly higher price, but I respect people who do buy MacBooks because they fit their needs.

Re: MacBook Air M1 screen crack for no apparent reason

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Post by LtWorf » Mon, Aug 15, 2022, 9:41 PM UTC

eastbound wrote: post #7

wizofaus wrote: post #4

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A warranty that can be voided just because some little sticker a user can't access indicates moisture detection doesn't even sound like it should be legal. If you've done something obviously stupid like drop your monitor in the bath then you're hardly going to need such a sticker to detect "unreasonable use". It seems pretty reasonable to expect consumer goods to tolerate small amounts of moisture. In fact a monitor…

Most electronics including Apple mention that they’re rated for 35°C while working and 40°C while off. After a single year, most of Apple warranties void out.

So if you live in a place where it will reach 41° in the summer, you won't have warranty! Neat!

Also those seem very cool temperatures given how apple computers love to overheat.

Re: MacBook Air M1 screen crack for no apparent reason

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Post by mr_toad » Mon, Aug 15, 2022, 9:41 PM UTC

scottydelta wrote: post #3

Apple has always tried to blame customers whenever they can. I remember when my MacBook pro 2015 started glitching and Apple voided the warranty by saying there was liquid spillage/fluid damage. So apparently macbooks have these small stickers inside them which change color upon contact with liquids to help detect liquid damage but the issue with those stickers are that they also change color if you live in a humid a…

Condensation can damage electrical equipment quite easily. Bring a cold metal laptop into a humid environment at your own risk.

Re: MacBook Air M1 screen crack for no apparent reason

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Post by depr » Mon, Aug 15, 2022, 9:41 PM UTC

TheDong wrote: post #100

umvi wrote: post #72

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> My 14" M1 MacBook Pro repair cost was $809 My custom Ryzen 7/RX 570 Linux PC built from parts cost less than this, so a repair of this magnitude just boggles my mind. At that point just buy yourself a new computer.

People just don't understand how good desktops are, right? On my flight yesterday, when I pulled out my full tower Ryzen with 2x 3090 GPUs, I got told that the power outlet on the plane seat shouldn't be used for my 1200W power supply. And yet, the same flight attendant said nothing to the macbook user a few rows over who was clearly plugged in. Frankly, it's appalling how few people understand that a cheaper desktop…

Next time bring a portable battery.

Re: MacBook Air M1 screen crack for no apparent reason

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Post by samatman » Mon, Aug 15, 2022, 9:42 PM UTC

geoffeg wrote: post #44

HideousKojima wrote: post #35

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Apple doesn't want to do proper strain relief on their cables because it's ugly and unaesthetic. Apple has basically always prioritized form over function.

Apple wasn't always like that, just the current iteration of Apple. Back in the 80s and 90s Apple was more focused on longevity and building really great user interfaces than purity of design. Their Human Interface Guidelines were some of the best in the industry and they spent a lot of time and money on human factors research.

I consider M[Int] Pro line as a solid return to form, and I bring that up here because of the braided MagSafe cable which comes with it.

I'm hard on cables, and I have an instinct for what's going to crap out on me. I expect this cable to last. That thing where they can afford to make a decent cable, know how, and just... wont? This cable isn't one of those.

It will, however, show grime. They haven't let go of Apple White Which Reveals If You're a Slob yet, and I'm dubious they ever will.

Edit: have to take that last paragraph back, they sell them in black. I did figure on having two...

Re: MacBook Air M1 screen crack for no apparent reason

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Post by kurupt213 » Mon, Aug 15, 2022, 9:42 PM UTC

TheDong wrote: post #100

umvi wrote: post #72

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> My 14" M1 MacBook Pro repair cost was $809 My custom Ryzen 7/RX 570 Linux PC built from parts cost less than this, so a repair of this magnitude just boggles my mind. At that point just buy yourself a new computer.

People just don't understand how good desktops are, right? On my flight yesterday, when I pulled out my full tower Ryzen with 2x 3090 GPUs, I got told that the power outlet on the plane seat shouldn't be used for my 1200W power supply. And yet, the same flight attendant said nothing to the macbook user a few rows over who was clearly plugged in. Frankly, it's appalling how few people understand that a cheaper desktop…

You should have shown her the daisy chain of 5v lithium batteries you used to power it. That really puts the stewardess in bitch-mode

Re: MacBook Air M1 screen crack for no apparent reason

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Post by qbasic_forever » Mon, Aug 15, 2022, 9:43 PM UTC

Krasnol wrote: post #106

aaaaaaaaaaab wrote: post #91

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May I ask how long the battery lasts on your your Ryzen 7/RX 570 Linux PC?

A CMOS battery lasts probably something around 5 years.

Does it scale down your graphics and sound to look like Tiger handheld LCD games when you're gaming on the CMOS battery?

Re: MacBook Air M1 screen crack for no apparent reason

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Post by amelius » Mon, Aug 15, 2022, 9:43 PM UTC

scottydelta wrote: post #39

seiferteric wrote: post #33

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My wife had a MBP with support plan years ago. The track pad started failing and it wouldn't always click even after you felt it depress and was slowly getting worse and worse. I took it in and the guy basally said there was no problem and I was just not pressing hard enough or something... It was very noticeable after using it for a while... Anyway I ended up ordering a new track pad online and replaced it myself an…

It's impossible to do self repairs on macbooks these days. Apple intentionally solders all the components together to prevent self repair. Even the battery is soldered to the system. https://9to5mac.com/2019/07/12/2019-13-macbook-pro-teardown/

> Apple intentionally solders all the components together to prevent self repair.

As much as I like to bash Apple, it could also be that they soldered/glued everything to miniaturize the product further, for example.