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Re: How fast is 12th Gen Intel Core?

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Post by hedora »

Spooky23 wrote: post #254
newman314 wrote: post #198

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Recently discovered that Infosec has now mandated that all laptops have sleep disabled (the reason given is to be able to do endpoint patching). ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ So I'm faced with having to log out and power off every day or suck up the cost of keeping the laptop on. /r/maliciouscompliance, here I come I suppose. Tempted to get one of these: https://us.amazon.com/Vegamax-Button-Ethernet-Internet-Netwo...

Probably because with work at home there’s no WOL. We disabled sleep to improve battery life and address a personal safety issue. There are many failure scenarios between various builds of Windows 10 and shitty drivers. Devices often wake up in bags and spin up fans until dead. Normal scenario is that the battery is dead in the morning. In one case, it melted the compartment material in a bag and was deemed a safety…

If it's a safety hazard, tell the OEM to repair the entire fleet.

Problem solved.

Re: How fast is 12th Gen Intel Core?

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Post by asdff »

lelanthran wrote: post #400
jxi wrote: post #17

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That’s pretty bad compared to m1. Less than half the battery life. Also Samsung laptops don’t last in my experience. They make short term tradeoffs at the expense of long term reliability.

> That’s pretty bad compared to m1. Less than half the battery life. Not really. My M1, used for email, browsing, some xterms, some emacs, 3 or 4 video meetings and the Goland IDE, only gets about 5 hours. When new it was a little longer than that.

That is actually terrible. I put a new battery into my 2012 macbook and I get about that much battery life with similar usage (although my compute is done on a server).

Re: How fast is 12th Gen Intel Core?

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Post by asdff »

varispeed wrote: post #212
nominusllc wrote: post #2

I went from saying, "if only they had an AMD" to getting a different machine in ARM and now im saying "if only they had ARM". I never realized how much heat, vibration, air blowers negatively affected me before. A framework laptop with some type of ARM or ARM-like cpu could do a lot with the space savings on cooling.

> I never realized how much heat, vibration, air blowers negatively affected me before. It's like a constant drilling sound that gets into your brain and makes thoughts flow like through the mud in the full sunlight. For that reason, despite that I don't like Apple and I am not a fan of macOS, I decided to buy M1 MBP. This is a lifechanging experience, that laptop. You can even put it on low power mode and won't lose…

I'm honestly impressed that so many people in these threads work in environments quiet enough where the fan is the largest source of annoyance. If I'm inside its drowned out by my window AC unit. If I'm outside on the patio its drowned out by my neighbor's window AC unit. If I take it to work then its the hvac vent over my desk that's the dominant source of noise, followed by the construction site across the street. Usually I use third party tools to pin my fan at max speed when I'm doing anything because it keeps the keyboard cooler.

Re: How fast is 12th Gen Intel Core?

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Post by asdff »

opdahl wrote: post #234
ddorian43 wrote: post #84

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You can't game on M1 or Mac AFAIK

This is not true. I have an Macbook Pro 16 Inch M1 Max and I play a ton of games. Both Dota 2 and World of Warcraft runs without issues, you just need to do some tweaking with the settings and also framerate cap the game so you don't end up thermal throttling which introduces stuttering.

I can't believe these M1s throttle! My 2012 era computers never throttled because apparently apple had better thermals back then. I had a more recent intel mac and I sent it back because of the throttling, biding my time for M1s to come down in price but now I see that won't be worth it.

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Post by onefootincode »

l8rlump wrote: post #421
pkid wrote: post #365

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I have loved Linux for a couple decades. It was a difficult decision to migrate to the M1. Linux is so much more responsive and pliable. However Asus encouraged me. After owning three of their laptops in the past 18 months that began to fall apart anywhere from 3-12 months-I was done. Unfortunately most 5/6900hs laptops are not flagship quality. Typically they are lower-mid range gaming units. This is my first mac. T…

I haven't made the switch yet as my old Lenovo is still hanging on. Would you mind expanding on your gripes with MacOS, in particular the comment about responsiveness?

Yeah, I'm also interested in responsiveness details.

I have my gripes with MacOS after years of linux/windows usage, but responsiveness on M1 is not one of them.

Re: How fast is 12th Gen Intel Core?

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Post by ncmncm »

stewbrew wrote: post #426
qzw wrote: post #385

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Intel should realize at this point that their existential threat comes from TSMC, not AMD. AMD is one competitor, but TSMC is giving a huge boost to all of their competitors, particularly the ARM vendors who won’t just take some x86 market share but potentially destroy the entire x86 market at some point in the future.

IIRC intel also builds some chips with TSMC.

Including their GPUs.

Re: How fast is 12th Gen Intel Core?

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Post by swaranga »

onefootincode wrote: post #435
l8rlump wrote: post #421

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I haven't made the switch yet as my old Lenovo is still hanging on. Would you mind expanding on your gripes with MacOS, in particular the comment about responsiveness?

Yeah, I'm also interested in responsiveness details. I have my gripes with MacOS after years of linux/windows usage, but responsiveness on M1 is not one of them.

For me it is the little things. Like switching windows. Mac feels half a second slower then Linux and that delay make it feel less responsive. Opening up the terminal can iterm2 is another one. For me these things just adds up. I want my OS to get out of my way when I want to get work done.

I have turned off the genie effect and perhaps other animations, but my Ubuntu on my Lenovo still feels faster than the Mac.

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Post by abudabi123 »

diffeomorphism wrote: post #149
abudabi123 wrote: post #113

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The IBM Keyboard Trackpoint has evolutionary paths towards being a tiny trackball while retracted down, the trackball locks and pops up a functional joystick. The problem with the Trackpoint is it feels superslow, superheavy on the fingertip compared with glidetouch trackpads.

>The problem with the Trackpoint is it feels superslow, superheavy on the fingertip compared That is just wrong. You only say that you don't like the default sensitivity/speed. Increase it a bit and you get the complete opposite.

The Trackpoint is in the correct place for the correct finger I use to point. I live in the Linux/BSD World and don't expect good enough support for sensitivity/speed control configuration software from Lenovo at all. And when third parties publish solutions they work briefly and I lose track of them through upgrade cycles. I want a better World with better evolved Trackpoint. The Trackpad takes my fingers off the home row and the context switch in moving my eyes to the keyboard really breaks "flow" of concentration.

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Post by nominusllc »

nwah1 wrote: post #13
xuki wrote: post #9

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How is the battery life? M1 laptops can easily last the whole day without plugging for most users.

I am able to get 4 or 5 hours of intensive programming done on battery power... running multiple IDEs, Android emulators, browsers, etc. I've never tried it with a normal usage pattern because I only use battery power for working.

I can run 3 copies of eve online in full brightness and full quality graphics for 7 hours on the M1.

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Post by crakhamster01 »

diffeomorphism wrote: post #139
crakhamster01 wrote: post #73

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I used to think this as well, but the all day battery life on M1 really made me realize how much of a mental tether outlets used to be. It seems pretty minor, but not worrying about getting a seat at the {coffee shop/airport/lounge} next to an outlet makes working on the go a much more attractive option now.

Don't power banks achieve the same and more? They are a bit heavy,but it sounds like it should be worth it to you.

I guess so, but that's another thing you need to remember to charge. I feel like that shifts the mental tether from, "I hope there's an outlet", to, "I hope my power bank has enough juice".
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