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Re: Tim O'Reilly: I am really starting to hate Mac OS X.

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> Someone who knows readline better than me can tell you how to move between words. It's alt+leftArrow and alt+rightArrow. Other useful ones which work in native text boxes: cmd+leftArrow and cmd+rightArrow to move to the start and end of lines in text boxes cmd+upArrow and cmd+downArrow to move to the very top and very bottom ctrl+a and ctrl+e to move to the start and end of paragraphs shift+ any of the above to mov…

alt+left or alt+right doesn't work for me in Terminal out of the box (I usually use iTerm2 where it doesn't work either) - do you need to change any settings (such as emulation, terminal type etc) to get at that?

Ah, my bad, I must have set that up myself.

According to this[1] stack overflow post, the vim key bindings for move back and forward work by default (which is news to me), or you can set up the alt left and right behaviour by following the instructions here[2].

[1] http://stackoverflow.com/questions/81272/is-there-any-way-in...

[2] http://blog.macromates.com/2006/word-movement-in-terminal/

Re: Tim O'Reilly: I am really starting to hate Mac OS X.

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Apple should at least give people the option to put an older operating system on a newer system. Similar to how PC vendors offer XP or W7. I tried to install my Leopard family pack on a computer that shipped with snow leopard - no dice. With the way things are, I'll never buy a new Mac, as I refuse to "upgrade" to Lion.

Re: Tim O'Reilly: I am really starting to hate Mac OS X.

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Suum cuique but some of your concerns really aren't: > In OSX you can only resize a window in the bottom right corner, in Ubuntu I can resize from any corner, or I can hold Alt and middle click anywhere near a corner of a window to start resizing it. No more hunting for the resize sweetspot. They changed that in Lion to every corner, every side. And you don't have to press ALT to do it. > When I click the Maximize bu…

> They changed that in Lion to every corner, every side. And you don't have to press ALT to do it. You don't have to hold down ALT - you can do it without, holding down ALT increases the window edge hit area to make it easier to resize it. > There's now a full-screen mode that takes care of that. And makes using multiple monitors even more pathetic on OS X by effectively disabling other outputs - on top of the age-ol…

the age-old problem of the menu for a window on a secondary monitor being displayed on the primary monitor

That sounds very easy to fix when talking in a forum, but I bet there are a million corner cases. Worse, real users (as opposed to people who can look around a web page when a button moves) would have a hard time. "I have two file menus now, I'm scared!"

OS X isn't perfect, but, for the problem it's trying to solve, it does a really good job. I still don't have a better alternative for my needs that range from scripting and compiling through photoshop and sales presentations. Especially one that works so reliably in a consumer environment.

I'm about to buy a new laptop. I've been putting a lot of thought into it, and Linux just isn't there yet (mostly 3rd party apps I need) and Windows lack of unix underpinnings means fighting Cygwin or running a VM all the time (though I'm finally starting to get the mid-to-late 90s taste of Microsoft out of my mouth :).

Re: Tim O'Reilly: I am really starting to hate Mac OS X.

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post #58

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Suum cuique but some of your concerns really aren't: > In OSX you can only resize a window in the bottom right corner, in Ubuntu I can resize from any corner, or I can hold Alt and middle click anywhere near a corner of a window to start resizing it. No more hunting for the resize sweetspot. They changed that in Lion to every corner, every side. And you don't have to press ALT to do it. > When I click the Maximize bu…

I think some of the points are valid; there may be solutions but they are so obscure that people obviously never discover them. I've had a MBP for nearly a year now and never knew that Fn+Left/Right substituted for Home/End (thanks for the tip, btw). I can't see myself guessing Cmd+Shift+G to type paths into Finder either... They're valid solutions but normally Linux is (not unjustifiably) castigated for requiring ob…

One handy thing is that because OS X uses Command for most of its window-management and application hot-keys, control + key is almost always unmasked by the application. Why is this important? Control-A and Control-E work in almost any text input! They work in Adium, they work in Chrome for the location bar and this textarea, and I'm sure many others.

I was pleasantly surprised because the Windows/Linux systems tend to mask Control-A for select-all.

Re: Tim O'Reilly: I am really starting to hate Mac OS X.

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Seriously, wtf is up with removing "Save As"? I had to copy the text from a file I was working on and paste it into a new file because the "Save a new version" option wasn't doing anything. One you missed: really horrible auto-correct feature Apple added. It will replace a word when you're in the middle of typing it. Completely broken and totally transparent. At first, I thought that WriteRoom was just buggy. Oh, and…

Save as doesn’t make sense if the app auto-saves.

"Save as" is usually used when you want to save it as a different file somewhere else, and most people have cmd-shift-s ingrained in their mind.

This no longer exists and there's no excuse. Autosaving doesn't even do the same job.

Re: Tim O'Reilly: I am really starting to hate Mac OS X.

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Worst parts of Lion over OS X: 1) Removed "Save As". You now have to duplicate and then save the file. 2) Smaller resize/minimize/"maximize" buttons. 3) The green maximize button still doesn't maximize. 4) Switched default behavior with mouse scrolling. 5) Generally slower and more resource intensive, noticeable on older (2009) Macbook Pros. 6) Terrible, lengthy switch over from the previous version of FileVault, if…

3) The green maximize button still doesn't maximize. This isn't and has never been a "maximize" button. It's supposed to zoom the window to fit the content as best it can without scrolling. It's up to the developer to implement it properly with their own logic.

But very, very few apps ever get it right, and most people seem to just want minimize and maximize.

Re: Tim O'Reilly: I am really starting to hate Mac OS X.

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>> I just want to see hidden files in Finder, why is that so hard? > defaults write com.apple.finder AppleShowAllFiles TRUE ? > Or just use the terminal ? You just proved his point.

> You just proved his point. Granted, it's not candy-color obvious. But for a developer working on Linux , "hard" should represent a different barrier than for Joe Sixpack, yes?

There is a distinction between "doable" and "usable".

I should switch to Terminal every time I want to toggle hidden file visibility?

Or write a service to install on my Finder toolbar. (I did this, because I'm not Joe Sixpack, but it's still annoying. If I wanted to write my own UI, I wouldn't have gone out and bought one.)

Re: Tim O'Reilly: I am really starting to hate Mac OS X.

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post #58

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Suum cuique but some of your concerns really aren't: > In OSX you can only resize a window in the bottom right corner, in Ubuntu I can resize from any corner, or I can hold Alt and middle click anywhere near a corner of a window to start resizing it. No more hunting for the resize sweetspot. They changed that in Lion to every corner, every side. And you don't have to press ALT to do it. > When I click the Maximize bu…

I think some of the points are valid; there may be solutions but they are so obscure that people obviously never discover them. I've had a MBP for nearly a year now and never knew that Fn+Left/Right substituted for Home/End (thanks for the tip, btw). I can't see myself guessing Cmd+Shift+G to type paths into Finder either... They're valid solutions but normally Linux is (not unjustifiably) castigated for requiring ob…

It’s no less obscure than other operating systems in this regard. I can’t see the difference.

Re: Tim O'Reilly: I am really starting to hate Mac OS X.

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If you don't like MacOS zooming and maximizing behavior, i recommend divvy [0] it has a heavy price tag but fixes those issues completely. [0] http://mizage.com/#macdivvy

$14 USD for something which is standard in most Linux desktop environments? (And is probably standard in Windows, but I can't remember.)

This is exactly what people complain about. Yes, this stuff can be done, but you need to set a bunch of options via the command line (no problem, but annoying if you have lots of stuff you want tweaked); then set a bunch of program options; then install a bunch of apps (some of which need to be paid for).

It is baffling to me why I need to install 3rd party software just to stop my MacBookPro making the startup sound every time I turn it on. (The alternative is to remember to mute the sound every time I turn it off.)

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