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Re: Tim O'Reilly: I am really starting to hate Mac OS X.

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I first admired OSX because of its simplicity and the way it kind of just knew what I wanted to do and started me on the journey that way. Lion was a step backward. defaults were no longer what I would find convenient. Constantly asking me if I want to open windows upon logon even though I always uncheck the box so it should know by now. The reverse scrolling which makes it a pain to use any other system after getting used to reverse direction. I'm starting to like Linux Mint more and more.

Re: Tim O'Reilly: I am really starting to hate Mac OS X.

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Suum cuique but some of your concerns really aren't: > In OSX you can only resize a window in the bottom right corner, in Ubuntu I can resize from any corner, or I can hold Alt and middle click anywhere near a corner of a window to start resizing it. No more hunting for the resize sweetspot. They changed that in Lion to every corner, every side. And you don't have to press ALT to do it. > When I click the Maximize bu…

>> On a new linux machine I can apt-get most anything, but if I do need to compile something I just apt-get build-essentials and I'm ready to go, on OSX you have to download a DVD just to be able to compile stuff from source. > Darwin ports? Fink? I've used both for the past near-decade (fink for 4 years, now macports for the past 3), along with a Debian desktop, and they're much worse imo. They do the job sort of, b…

Dump both macports and fink and use Homebrew instead: http://mxcl.github.com/homebrew/

Re: Tim O'Reilly: I am really starting to hate Mac OS X.

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post #58

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Suum cuique but some of your concerns really aren't: > In OSX you can only resize a window in the bottom right corner, in Ubuntu I can resize from any corner, or I can hold Alt and middle click anywhere near a corner of a window to start resizing it. No more hunting for the resize sweetspot. They changed that in Lion to every corner, every side. And you don't have to press ALT to do it. > When I click the Maximize bu…

I think some of the points are valid; there may be solutions but they are so obscure that people obviously never discover them. I've had a MBP for nearly a year now and never knew that Fn+Left/Right substituted for Home/End (thanks for the tip, btw). I can't see myself guessing Cmd+Shift+G to type paths into Finder either... They're valid solutions but normally Linux is (not unjustifiably) castigated for requiring ob…

It is wizardry because it is baked into the OS that people will use the mouse or they will dive in and learn the incantations.

What to go to the end of a line? Click there. FWIW, I prefer ctrl-e and the other emacs bindings myself.

Re: Tim O'Reilly: I am really starting to hate Mac OS X.

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I prefer Lion to Snow Leopard. I find myself appreciating the more controversial changes, like reversed scrolling and hidden scrollers. I followed Gruber's advice and suppressed the impulse to switch the defaults back to Snowpard behaviors and find that I'm less happy when I have to use Snowpard now. Meanwhile: * Mail.app under Lion is the best mail UX they've ever shipped. It's not a small improvement over Snowpard;…

> Mail.app under Lion is the best mail UX they've ever shipped.

Totally agreed; I have been using Gmail web interface for years reluctant to switch to a desktop client, but switched immediately after installing Lion and checking out the Mail app.

Re: Tim O'Reilly: I am really starting to hate Mac OS X.

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What network drivers did Lion break? Are you plugging custom network hardware into your Mac? Why? We're a pretty dev-tools-intensive shop here and while the transition to XCode4 has been hiccupy, I don't think Lion has broken anything for us.

A lot of people (including me) are suffering from dropped wifi connections. There's a thread on the Apple support forums that has 1264 replies and 157731 views: https://discussions.apple.com/thread/3191630?start=0&tst... Apple has been trying to fix it ever since Lion came out. After 2 updates it's still not working for me.

I fixed my WiFi not reconnecting by zapping my PRAM.

Cmd-Opt-P-R on boot and hold down until you get a couple of loud bongs.

Yeah! I know! First time doing that has ever fixed a damn thing for me, but not reconnecting to my WiFi was starting to become an annoyance.

This was on a new main logic board on my 2007 MBP running a fresh install of Lion 10.7.2 copied out of the Install app and burned to an 8GB USB key.

Re: Tim O'Reilly: I am really starting to hate Mac OS X.

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Like a teenager before a date Mac seems to be entirely about looks, oh everything works well both OS and hardware but sometimes it seems looks come before function. No separate delete or backspace keys, no multiple desktops, breathtakingly expensive hardware and software, awkward layout of files in the GUI, closing apps frustrating X doesn't close the app it minimizes it but you also have a minimize button (??), am I…

"breathtakingly expensive hardware and software" Where can you get something considerably cheaper than the Macbook Airs that sport: - 128GB SSD (13") - 1440x900 (13") display - 4GB of RAM - Core i5 - operating system included - thin, light, and have quality construction For £1099 including taxes?

This is kinda sad, but flying to NY and buying it on 5th Avenue would probably get you exactly the same computer for much less!

*Aside from the keycaps of course.

Re: Tim O'Reilly: I am really starting to hate Mac OS X.

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I don't think the environment is as locked down as you think. Finder can access windows shares. Apple-shift-G lets you type in any path you want in Finder, and if you are at the command line you can do open to open a Finder window. Ctrl-a and Ctrl-e at the prompt move the cursor to the beginning and end of the prompt, respectively. Someone who knows readline better than me can tell you how to move between words. I co…

> Someone who knows readline better than me can tell you how to move between words. It's alt+leftArrow and alt+rightArrow. Other useful ones which work in native text boxes: cmd+leftArrow and cmd+rightArrow to move to the start and end of lines in text boxes cmd+upArrow and cmd+downArrow to move to the very top and very bottom ctrl+a and ctrl+e to move to the start and end of paragraphs shift+ any of the above to mov…

alt+left or alt+right doesn't work for me in Terminal out of the box (I usually use iTerm2 where it doesn't work either) - do you need to change any settings (such as emulation, terminal type etc) to get at that?

Re: Tim O'Reilly: I am really starting to hate Mac OS X.

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post #29

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Like a teenager before a date Mac seems to be entirely about looks, oh everything works well both OS and hardware but sometimes it seems looks come before function. No separate delete or backspace keys, no multiple desktops, breathtakingly expensive hardware and software, awkward layout of files in the GUI, closing apps frustrating X doesn't close the app it minimizes it but you also have a minimize button (??), am I…

"breathtakingly expensive hardware and software" Where can you get something considerably cheaper than the Macbook Airs that sport: - 128GB SSD (13") - 1440x900 (13") display - 4GB of RAM - Core i5 - operating system included - thin, light, and have quality construction For £1099 including taxes?

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16834230... is such a thing, and at $1099 USD, it's nearly half of your quoted price. Unfortunately, it has a widescreen which has more pixels than you asked for, but somehow I don't think that's a bad thing.

It comes with Windows, but if you want a real operating system, you can install any Linux you like on there. Or a BSD. Go for it.

Also, I was going to just answer "mu" to your question, and be done with it. Macbooks don't have quality construction; that's why their hinges keep falling apart after a year or two of actual use. It's been a problem since the Powerbook days.

So, uh, yeah. Apple products are too fuckin' expensive.

(Oh, and there were a handful of VAIOs that also fit this criteria, but let's be honest, VAIOs are not real computers.)

Re: Tim O'Reilly: I am really starting to hate Mac OS X.

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post #58

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Suum cuique but some of your concerns really aren't: > In OSX you can only resize a window in the bottom right corner, in Ubuntu I can resize from any corner, or I can hold Alt and middle click anywhere near a corner of a window to start resizing it. No more hunting for the resize sweetspot. They changed that in Lion to every corner, every side. And you don't have to press ALT to do it. > When I click the Maximize bu…

They changed that in Lion to every corner, every side. And you don't have to press ALT to do it He meant, you can click anywhere in the window and use Alt. If you left-click, it moves the window. If you middle-click it (apparently - I did not know this) will resize the window. Mac OS X has oddly small targets for many of the Window management things. You have to be careful with the mouse when finding a resize corner…

> Mac OS X has oddly small targets for many of the Window management things.

I actually like this about OS X. When i heard that Lion added resize-from-any-side, i was annoyed, because i feared it would be Windows 7-esque (in that on W7 there is this 20- or 30-pixel dead zone around the edges of every window where you can't get anything done except resize). I found the final implementation on OS X to be surprisingly good.

> Naturally when you click it in iTunes you expect the iTunes window to.... shrink down to a compact size. I know the purpose of it is to 'change the window size to fit the content' - a nice concept but doesn't seem intuitive or easy to grasp for everyone.

iTunes and Finder are outliers when it comes to what the zoom button does. To Apple's credit, a few versions ago they did try to make iTunes more consistent by making the zoom button work as described. However, there was an ENORMOUS backlash from people who liked the former behaviour and found the keyboard shortcut (OpenApple+M i think — it's in the menu somewhere, but i never use the mini-player because it's stupid) too excruciating to use instead, so they switched it back around for the next version.

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