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Re: Facebook's TikTok-like redesign marks sunset of social networking era

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Post by crazygringo »

b112 wrote: post #309
SrslyJosh wrote: post #6

Nobody hates Facebook users more than Facebook, I guess. :-/ I've tried to type out several pithy comments, but the bottom line (to me) is that Facebook just doesn't respect its users or care about their needs. Can you imagine if brick-and-mortar businesses tried to do this? You go out for a Big Mac, but it's not on the menu anymore because Taco Bell had a few really good quarters, so McDonald's decided to pivot to t…

Can you imagine if brick-and-mortar businesses tried to do this? You go out for a Big Mac Your point is 100% valid, so don't consider this a disagreement. It is merely that McDonalds has changed, and it annoys me. I went to the one on El Camino near Oregon, and waited 7 minutes to have my order taken, and 14 minutes more for my food. Why? Doordash, and others. https://nypost.com/2022/02/14/doordash-to-penalize-mcdona…

> They could have added more cooks, and another cashier, keeping the responsiveness and speed of old, keeping their food fast for walkins.

McDonald's hasn't been fast food for a long, long time -- and this has nothing to do with Doordash/delivery.

In the 80's and 90's at least, all food was made ahead of time. There were rows of burgers sitting under heat lamps, and once you paid the cashier, they would grab your entire order in under 30 seconds and hand it to you. It was fast food.

But as competitors started making better-tasting food freshly prepared (e.g. Wendy's made all hamburgers to-order), McD's had to catch up. So the burgers under heat lamps are long gone, and you have to wait 5-15 minutes for your food to be made. You get a number on your receipt and walk over to a pickup area now.

Also the 7 minutes to have your order taken has nothing to do with DoorDash/delivery -- it's the fact that McD's raised their minimum wage a few years ago, so they can only afford 1 cashier instead of 4-5, and they want you to use a kiosk/app to order using a touchscreen.

McDonald's didn't bork anything. Their hot, fresh quarter pounders are now almost infinitely tastier than the old shriveled ones in dried-up buns baking under a lamp for 30 minutes prior that we ate in the 80's and 90's. But that comes at the cost of waiting for them to make them fresh.

Re: Facebook's TikTok-like redesign marks sunset of social networking era

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Post by ickelbawd »

site-packages1 wrote: post #137

I stopped using this years ago, except I still have an account and minorly check once a week or month depending on my mood. I'll give the same refrain I expect from most: how do I keep up with goings-on of long-lost friends, family members with whom I don't want to directly interact but want to know what they're "up to" and to know about major life events? Maybe the answer is that I should delete facebook and go back…

Sure. You see them once in a blue moon and catch-up. Or you go back to ye ole grapevine, and ask the people you do want to talk to about the people they talk to that you don’t. Or you forget about them and life carries on.

Re: Facebook's TikTok-like redesign marks sunset of social networking era

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Post by 2-718-281-828 »

b112 wrote: post #309
SrslyJosh wrote: post #6

Nobody hates Facebook users more than Facebook, I guess. :-/ I've tried to type out several pithy comments, but the bottom line (to me) is that Facebook just doesn't respect its users or care about their needs. Can you imagine if brick-and-mortar businesses tried to do this? You go out for a Big Mac, but it's not on the menu anymore because Taco Bell had a few really good quarters, so McDonald's decided to pivot to t…

Can you imagine if brick-and-mortar businesses tried to do this? You go out for a Big Mac Your point is 100% valid, so don't consider this a disagreement. It is merely that McDonalds has changed, and it annoys me. I went to the one on El Camino near Oregon, and waited 7 minutes to have my order taken, and 14 minutes more for my food. Why? Doordash, and others. https://nypost.com/2022/02/14/doordash-to-penalize-mcdona…

I remember being in Bilbao, Spain wanting to eat fries and a cheesburger in a Burger King. They didn't have anything like that. All I could choose from where potato wedges and weird Spanish style burgers with way too much stuff on it. Is it too much to ask for fries and a regular old hamburger in a Burger King nowadays?

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Post by b112 »

Gareth321 wrote: post #483
janfoeh wrote: post #451

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I don't mind that, even if the "experience" might be lost on me. What I do mind is the food being cold.

The patty/bacon should definitely not be cold and that's not my experience with McDonalds. However it is less warm than "scolding hot from sitting under a warmer for 45 minutes."

McDonalds was an assembly line for burgers. As far back as the 80s, and as late as last year, in Canada, during busy times, they'd definielty have burgers under the warmer. During slow times, none.

They can cook and assemble a burger in 2 minutes, along with fries... even a dozen burgers.

This was McDonald's specialty! How to keep ahead of the crowd, in sync with demand, and also, how to build a burger fast.

The fact that they don't have 50 big macs on the go, during doordash/dinner peak, is a major problem.

No, it's not difficult, not for them, they've been doing it for 70 years!

There may be some merit to some of what you say, but it just leaves one with more questions.

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Post by syrrim »

holografix wrote: post #449

I like to go against the current on these topics, try to bring a different perspective even if I don’t fully agree with what I’m saying: I think the TikTok threat to Meta is overblown. They’re a one trick pony and their trick is the unhealthiest of them all, presenting the user with the least amount of control and provided by the most opaque, state controlled, spyware-esque organisation. You thought Russia using Face…

> Once a company gets VR done well the smartphone is OVER.

AR maybe. I seriously doubt that VR will ever be the primary way people interact with computers. People tend to use their phones as a distraction in public, and as a brief reprieve in private. VR entails completely submerging yourself in the computer interface, which might be fine occasionally, but I doubt will ever be most people's preferred way to access social media and the like. AR would enable you to distract yourself while still leaving you aware of what's going on around you. The issue there being that its much more difficult to do AR well. I doubt that VR will take off until someone does AR or MR really well, after which enough people will be already using the headsets for a VR application to become popular.

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Post by spaceman_2020 »

amanaplanacanal wrote: post #563
rchaud wrote: post #500

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I'd say it's long-term thinking. McD's is a franchise, and paying commercial rents at the levels they're at now is not economically viable in a lot of cities, especially if your walk-in traffic is mostly delivery service workers. They'd probably make more money if they moved spaces into a ghost kitchen and cut out walk-in traffic entirely.

Where I live, there is tons of empty retail space because of Amazon, eBay, etc. I would assume that would push commercial rents down, but I evidently don’t understand that market at all.

The commercial real estate market has been untethered from reality for a while.

Heck, that’s true for all real estate markets. Funny money and overseas wealth has distorted all notions of market efficiency.

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Post by greatwave1 »

2-718-281-828 wrote: post #613
b112 wrote: post #309

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Can you imagine if brick-and-mortar businesses tried to do this? You go out for a Big Mac Your point is 100% valid, so don't consider this a disagreement. It is merely that McDonalds has changed, and it annoys me. I went to the one on El Camino near Oregon, and waited 7 minutes to have my order taken, and 14 minutes more for my food. Why? Doordash, and others. https://nypost.com/2022/02/14/doordash-to-penalize-mcdona…

I remember being in Bilbao, Spain wanting to eat fries and a cheesburger in a Burger King. They didn't have anything like that. All I could choose from where potato wedges and weird Spanish style burgers with way too much stuff on it. Is it too much to ask for fries and a regular old hamburger in a Burger King nowadays?

Have you considered that what's a "weird Spanish style burger" to you is likely a regular old hamburger to someone who lives in Bilbao, Spain

Re: Facebook's TikTok-like redesign marks sunset of social networking era

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Post by ed_elliott_asc »

dreamcompiler wrote: post #264
SrslyJosh wrote: post #6

Nobody hates Facebook users more than Facebook, I guess. :-/ I've tried to type out several pithy comments, but the bottom line (to me) is that Facebook just doesn't respect its users or care about their needs. Can you imagine if brick-and-mortar businesses tried to do this? You go out for a Big Mac, but it's not on the menu anymore because Taco Bell had a few really good quarters, so McDonald's decided to pivot to t…

> Facebook just doesn't respect its users or care about their needs. Facebook cares a great deal about its users--advertisers. You and I aren't Facebook's users; we are the ore Facebook has been mining at a cost approaching zero for over a decade and selling at a huge markup to its actual customers. But now the mine is playing out. We no longer cost Facebook zero to mine and the advertisers are beginning to realize t…

Won’t the bag be in a virtual world though? :)

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Post by cpeterso »

BbzzbB wrote: post #573
cpeterso wrote: post #302

Here is Adam Mosseri, "Head of Instagram at Instagram", talking about why Instagram is leaning into Reels videos: https://twitter.com/mosseri/status/1551890839584088065 He says users are using Reels more, even though they say they don't want Reels. Replies say content creators are reluctantly making Reels because the algorithm favors Reels over regular posts. Ironically, he posted this on Twitter (as a video) because…

He has obviously posted it on both Instagram and Twitter.

Good point. I see his Twitter post has about 8000 replies and his Instagram post has over 24,000 replies.

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Post by TheSpiceIsLife »

andsoitis wrote: post #601
TheSpiceIsLife wrote: post #130

Earlier quoted context omitted.

One of the features of Facebook was the people who were on Facebook.

Where have they "gone"?

They were on Facebook.

They still are, but they were too.

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