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Facebook's TikTok-like redesign marks sunset of social networking era

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Re: Facebook's TikTok-like redesign marks sunset of social networking era

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Can someone please explain to me why Facebook shouldn’t be treated as a news publisher? They are now outright choosing what content to show you. This is indistinguishable from opinion or freelance journalism sites. Facebook is now explicitly deciding which content to allow, editorializing content at will, and dictating the content that you see. Looks like a news publisher. Sounds like a news publisher. Acts like a ne…

Facebook, or Twitter, or…

Twitter shows clearly editorialised content in the trending sidebar.

Re: Facebook's TikTok-like redesign marks sunset of social networking era

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WhatsApp isn't dead, but it isn't really monetisable. We'll see how Telegram Premium goes - personally i have it, but i doubt many people are willing to pay for a chat app with tons of free alternatives.

I'm happy to pay for chat, just not for Telegram. I'd absolutely pay for Signal.

You can donate to Signal if you want to support them. In the settings menu there's an option to give a one-time or monthly donation.

Re: Facebook's TikTok-like redesign marks sunset of social networking era

#493

Nobody hates Facebook users more than Facebook, I guess. :-/ I've tried to type out several pithy comments, but the bottom line (to me) is that Facebook just doesn't respect its users or care about their needs. Can you imagine if brick-and-mortar businesses tried to do this? You go out for a Big Mac, but it's not on the menu anymore because Taco Bell had a few really good quarters, so McDonald's decided to pivot to t…

Yep, rather than focusing on how they are are different in providing value (connecting people) they are chasing attention and ad revenue. It’s sad because that type of person to person social connection is being relegated back to instant messengers which still function more or less like the ones from the 2000s.

I guess you haven’t been using Telegram. It introduces new useful features every year.

Re: Facebook's TikTok-like redesign marks sunset of social networking era

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The day meta is declared dead will be the day some other corporation has released an alternative to Facebook/Instagram/etc, probably worse. Hardly anything to celebrate. The cat is out of the bag.

I'm really curious to know what you think that "cat" is ? Are you thinking that digital technology is irrevocably corrupted and hereafter can only be employed toward abusive and manipulative ends? Or are you supposing that because we have allowed some companies to damage society through abuses of technology, that the situation can never be remedied. No laws can ever be brought to bear? Or are you alluding to somethin…

It’s not that profound. Humans have become addicted to sharing every moment of their lives through social media, and then watching what other people have shared. Most people no longer have time to themselves since they feel like if they don’t share what they are doing they aren’t doing anything. And if they aren’t doing anything they have to keep up with others (FOMO). Meta will only disappear when someone else creates an even more engaging and therefore malignant platform.

Re: Facebook's TikTok-like redesign marks sunset of social networking era

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WhatsApp isn't dead, but it isn't really monetisable. We'll see how Telegram Premium goes - personally i have it, but i doubt many people are willing to pay for a chat app with tons of free alternatives.

I'm happy to pay for chat, just not for Telegram. I'd absolutely pay for Signal.

You can donate to Signal one-time or monthly. They make it very easy with Apple Pay.

Re: Facebook's TikTok-like redesign marks sunset of social networking era

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> Facebook cares a great deal about its users--advertisers Anyone who's tried to use their advertiser tools is unlikely to agree with this. Hard to remember any software I've used with a worse user interface in recent memory.

Google ads is pretty bad too but facebook's business portal / ad manager / whatever they call it this week almost seems to be designed to be a nightmare to use on purpose. I sincerely hope a player comes along to disrupt this market with a product that is actually nice to use and offers decent customer support - these shouldn't be unrealistic wishes!

There's no way to disrupt that market without first owning the audience. Facebook and Google can afford to build awful ad management software, because that's the only way advertisers can reach their audiences.

Re: Facebook's TikTok-like redesign marks sunset of social networking era

#497

Nobody hates Facebook users more than Facebook, I guess. :-/ I've tried to type out several pithy comments, but the bottom line (to me) is that Facebook just doesn't respect its users or care about their needs. Can you imagine if brick-and-mortar businesses tried to do this? You go out for a Big Mac, but it's not on the menu anymore because Taco Bell had a few really good quarters, so McDonald's decided to pivot to t…

I understand that they think growth is in the younger users, but I can't see granny creating twerking videos. There is a sizable chunk of people that just want to post text and look at pictures of their relatives.

Re: Facebook's TikTok-like redesign marks sunset of social networking era

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post #485

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The day meta is declared dead will be the day some other corporation has released an alternative to Facebook/Instagram/etc, probably worse. Hardly anything to celebrate. The cat is out of the bag.

I'm really curious to know what you think that "cat" is ? Are you thinking that digital technology is irrevocably corrupted and hereafter can only be employed toward abusive and manipulative ends? Or are you supposing that because we have allowed some companies to damage society through abuses of technology, that the situation can never be remedied. No laws can ever be brought to bear? Or are you alluding to somethin…

I suppose the technological implementation of a sort of “bad faith” ethos is the cat, here. And as tends to happen with that sort of degradation of values, other organizations pick up the technique since the bar is lowered. That’s my 2 cents anyway.

Re: Facebook's TikTok-like redesign marks sunset of social networking era

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I feel like half the comments here about "facebook dying" and how "facebook can't compete with tiktok" are missing the big picture about facebook. For a lot of people, facebook basically is the internet. The same way AOL was a long time ago. Everyone they want to talk to as they go about their day is there. Basically every business in the US that bothers with an online presence at all either has a facebook page or ex…

Maybe I am weird, but I never see the Facebook page of companies. It's always Instagram for non-tech/normal companies and groups and Twitter for more "online" or techy companies. For looking up a business it's always Google/Website, Yelp, and Instagram for me.

I love companies using Facebook Messenger for support inquires. External chat popups suck, since the chat gets destroyed when you close the window/you lose connection.

With Facebook chat you just send the inquiry and they respond when they log back in the morning. My ISP actually responded immidiately at 2AM once, that was also a nice surprise.

Re: Facebook's TikTok-like redesign marks sunset of social networking era

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I noticed the last time I went to a McDonalds a huge sign on the door advertising that they're on DoorDash, Uber Eats, etc., basically saying "don't come here!"

Really short term thinking if that's true. DoorDash/UberEats might not be around forever. Its also not clear whether people will order the same amounts if an actual recession rolls around. By prioritizing DoorDash over in-store customers, you're just destroying your long-term value prop and brand.

I'd say it's long-term thinking. McD's is a franchise, and paying commercial rents at the levels they're at now is not economically viable in a lot of cities, especially if your walk-in traffic is mostly delivery service workers.

They'd probably make more money if they moved spaces into a ghost kitchen and cut out walk-in traffic entirely.

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