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Post by rightbyte »

Gareth321 wrote: post #483
janfoeh wrote: post #451

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I don't mind that, even if the "experience" might be lost on me. What I do mind is the food being cold.

The patty/bacon should definitely not be cold and that's not my experience with McDonalds. However it is less warm than "scolding hot from sitting under a warmer for 45 minutes."

Oh ... so that is why McDonalds is bad now. I wondered why the hamburgers are cold nowadays. I did not realize the slides were heated.

In the same way the fries seem to be cold from the complexity of all the different menu items messing up their flow.

95% BigMc and fries must have been so much more easy to organize around.

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Post by amanaplanacanal »

rchaud wrote: post #500
spaceman_2020 wrote: post #355

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Really short term thinking if that's true. DoorDash/UberEats might not be around forever. Its also not clear whether people will order the same amounts if an actual recession rolls around. By prioritizing DoorDash over in-store customers, you're just destroying your long-term value prop and brand.

I'd say it's long-term thinking. McD's is a franchise, and paying commercial rents at the levels they're at now is not economically viable in a lot of cities, especially if your walk-in traffic is mostly delivery service workers. They'd probably make more money if they moved spaces into a ghost kitchen and cut out walk-in traffic entirely.

Where I live, there is tons of empty retail space because of Amazon, eBay, etc. I would assume that would push commercial rents down, but I evidently don’t understand that market at all.

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Post by rychco »

nonrandomstring wrote: post #489
hgazx wrote: post #485

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The day meta is declared dead will be the day some other corporation has released an alternative to Facebook/Instagram/etc, probably worse. Hardly anything to celebrate. The cat is out of the bag.

I'm really curious to know what you think that "cat" is ? Are you thinking that digital technology is irrevocably corrupted and hereafter can only be employed toward abusive and manipulative ends? Or are you supposing that because we have allowed some companies to damage society through abuses of technology, that the situation can never be remedied. No laws can ever be brought to bear? Or are you alluding to somethin…

> Or are you supposing that because we have allowed some companies to damage society through abuses of technology, that the situation can never be remedied. No laws can ever be brought to bear?

I can't speak for the rest of the world, but in the United States? Absolutely yes.

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Post by boraturan »

building an open, white-label, embeddable Instagram/Tiktok as SAAS solution at alvin5.com. The idea is that communities and individuals can create their own Instagram like social media app/feed (Shopify for Social media), would love to meet with interested parties.

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Post by windexh8er »

nonrandomstring wrote: post #489
hgazx wrote: post #485

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The day meta is declared dead will be the day some other corporation has released an alternative to Facebook/Instagram/etc, probably worse. Hardly anything to celebrate. The cat is out of the bag.

I'm really curious to know what you think that "cat" is ? Are you thinking that digital technology is irrevocably corrupted and hereafter can only be employed toward abusive and manipulative ends? Or are you supposing that because we have allowed some companies to damage society through abuses of technology, that the situation can never be remedied. No laws can ever be brought to bear? Or are you alluding to somethin…

I've said it before and I'll say it again - social media is not the root of the problem here. I believe that there could be a great social media platform that respects its users and their privacy. But the minute you let marketing and sales into the room the game changes. They are the ones that see their users as the advert dollars, not the people building the platform. The highly paid executives whose only goal is to squeeze every last penny out for their own personal gain are the issue. This is a systemic problem in technology today: when the goal is profit first, the end user is lost as the target market.

I'm working for a small company currently and am watching the same thing play out on a much smaller scale. The company was growing organically at a good clip. We've had zero customer churn in 6+ years and service some of the largest companies in their respective verticals. Company fires the current CEO based on board recommendations, hires a CRO who was in sales at Oracle for 7 years, CRO brings in his overpriced underlings to "manage", CRO starts refocusing all concerns around the sales process (starting with making everyone spend an inordinate amount of time learning/relearning MEDDPICC) and tying up hours of the work week in unproductive oversight meetings. Now I haven't been here long but I've seen this play out before. CRO will sit here for 2+ years and milk it into the ground blaming everyone for every failure but himself. He'll even throw his guys under the bus if needed (which is why they're there in the first place - ownership buffer). We're starting to see product issues because of the focal shift internally and the distraction this guy is creating. It's so unfortunate - I've yet to hear the CRO talk about a customer outside of the subject matter of revenue. It's sick and twisted. These types of "executives" are narcissists through and through and they are the toxic seed that kills great companies.

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Post by Karunamon »

rob74 wrote: post #362
spaceman_2020 wrote: post #355

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Really short term thinking if that's true. DoorDash/UberEats might not be around forever. Its also not clear whether people will order the same amounts if an actual recession rolls around. By prioritizing DoorDash over in-store customers, you're just destroying your long-term value prop and brand.

Plus there's one small detail: you can still enjoy e.g. a pizza that's not hot anymore; other food (Indian, Chinese, ...) can mostly be kept hot without losing its quality. With burgers and fries (especially McDonalds), you have to eat them hot, and trying to keep them warm during delivery results in a soggy mess that's not enjoyable at all anymore IMHO.

There is something about McDonald's fries that gives them the sharpest drop off in quality over time compared to literally any other fast food restaurant. I swear, it's like they are 100% within a couple minutes of being pulled out of the oil, merely okay for the next three, and then literally inedible by six minutes.

Re: Facebook's TikTok-like redesign marks sunset of social networking era

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Post by rightbyte »

Gareth321 wrote: post #433
rightbyte wrote: post #385

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Interesting take. Me and my friends also moved to group chats. Probably unconsciously to avoid the intrusion. I guess FB overextended by invading out feeds with ads and "recommendations" rather than gossip about friends.

>Me and my friends also moved to group chats. Probably unconsciously to avoid the intrusion. I guess that's why they have ads in Messenger now.

Ye. I wish Zuckerbergs adds them to Whatsapp too, so I can convince people to use e.g. Signal.

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Post by andsoitis »

dreamcompiler wrote: post #264
SrslyJosh wrote: post #6

Nobody hates Facebook users more than Facebook, I guess. :-/ I've tried to type out several pithy comments, but the bottom line (to me) is that Facebook just doesn't respect its users or care about their needs. Can you imagine if brick-and-mortar businesses tried to do this? You go out for a Big Mac, but it's not on the menu anymore because Taco Bell had a few really good quarters, so McDonald's decided to pivot to t…

> Facebook just doesn't respect its users or care about their needs. Facebook cares a great deal about its users--advertisers. You and I aren't Facebook's users; we are the ore Facebook has been mining at a cost approaching zero for over a decade and selling at a huge markup to its actual customers. But now the mine is playing out. We no longer cost Facebook zero to mine and the advertisers are beginning to realize t…

> Facebook cares a great deal about its users--advertisers.

> You and I aren't Facebook's users

A user is someone who uses a product, by any reasonable definition.

Advertisers are certainly (commercial) customers, but the average person IS a user of Facebook.

> we are the ore Facebook has been mining

This I do agree with, my own metaphor has been harvesting rather than mining (like in the Matrix or in Jupiter Ascending). But being something mined/harvested does not preclude also being a user.

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