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Re: Facebook's TikTok-like redesign marks sunset of social networking era

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Post by tmccrary55 »

citizenkeen wrote: post #44
rvz wrote: post #27

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Meta already knew Facebook would sink someday. As they have Instagram, they don't care and Meta will be around for another 10 years to extract more from Instagram and their other unused platforms. I'd expect the hype and growth around TikTok to peak once their parent company IPOs, as more corporations, advertisers, mainstream media accounts, move in to the platform to ruin it just like they did with the rest of the o…

Why would ByteDance IPO?

Specifically to cash out at peak hype.

Re: Facebook's TikTok-like redesign marks sunset of social networking era

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Post by tomlin »

yalogin wrote: post #68
tomlin wrote: post #24

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> TikTok is really taking over and is a force. So that means what? That other social medias can't exist unless they are on the absolute top? Sounds like a race to the bottom, patched up with investor creole language bullshit.

Did you forget how Friendster and the ones before lost their user base overnight? Facebook was not in that situation because so far there hasn’t been a worthy competitor. They bought the last two, and it’s not possible with TikTok. Facebook is pissing it’s meta pants.

I didn't forget. I also didn't forget that they burned all of their money, and didn't pay their taxes. I think you're extrapolating a lot from nothing.

Re: Facebook's TikTok-like redesign marks sunset of social networking era

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Post by ulfw »

JohnJamesRambo wrote: post #79
ulfw wrote: post #75

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You're basically describing myspace.

I honestly liked MySpace. I think it was superior to Facebook in every way. At least you could enjoy some cool music on someone’s page when you visited it. The page was about them.

Yes it was less of a 'database' with a front end but more of a messy creative space you could put whatever you like on.

Re: Facebook's TikTok-like redesign marks sunset of social networking era

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Post by tomlin »

chitowneats wrote: post #30
tomlin wrote: post #24

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> TikTok is really taking over and is a force. So that means what? That other social medias can't exist unless they are on the absolute top? Sounds like a race to the bottom, patched up with investor creole language bullshit.

Sorry, why is creole being referenced here? Is this an inside joke/reference I'm not familiar with? Is it a typo? Edit: Thank you all for the replies. I am aware of and respectful of the literal definition. The usage on the comment I responded to strikes me as either antiquated, inaccurate, or a typo.

You all need to get out of Silicon Valley. Creole languages, such as Jamaican are not only completely normal and exist, it's actually not antiquated if you look outside of the US.

I do think you need to read more about this. You seem hung up on a singular meaning, which to me says a lot more about you than me. In this context, unless you're going to be obnoxiously pandentic, creole simply means "a bunch of words and phrases smashed together" Really not worth going into highschool mode about.

Re: Facebook's TikTok-like redesign marks sunset of social networking era

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Post by Bjorkbat »

This actually makes me pretty sad. For all of Facebook's ills, it did at least do a good job of keeping me connected with friends before it got weird. Same with Instagram. Twitter is fantastic because it helps me discover new people, new interests, new worlds, in a way.

TikTok doesn't feel social at all. It feels entirely too performative. Everything on there is a performance. Everything is an act. Everything is simply an effort of some kind or another. Sounds more exhausting than fun.

Really wish there was a thriving ecosystem of small online communities that had some sort of financial structure that could collectively create as much money as these larger companies do.

Instead, well, here we are.

Re: Facebook's TikTok-like redesign marks sunset of social networking era

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Post by tomlin »

mrcartmeneses wrote: post #47
chitowneats wrote: post #30

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Sorry, why is creole being referenced here? Is this an inside joke/reference I'm not familiar with? Is it a typo? Edit: Thank you all for the replies. I am aware of and respectful of the literal definition. The usage on the comment I responded to strikes me as either antiquated, inaccurate, or a typo.

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Creole, such as Jamaican, are languages that exist - and discounting them is the actual racism. This post isn't even about race, or even a group of people. Take a rest.

You realize I was calling the practice of ignoring facts and bullshitting people "bullshit", right? How is this hard to follow? Next time instead of reacting, try humanity. Creole languages aren't even predominantly non-white. Feels like projection of your own bigotry, honestly.

Re: Facebook's TikTok-like redesign marks sunset of social networking era

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Post by threeseed »

groffee wrote: post #35
yalogin wrote: post #8

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It’s not that easy. This is life and death for Facebook. TikTok is really taking over and is a force. It’s also a Chinese company and so they can’t buy it. They are forced to compete, either they do this or become fully irrelevant

Facebook is dying, but not because of TikTok. Facebook is dying because they stopped being Facebook. If they gave what's left of their userbase what they actually wanted (chronological feed, seeing friends posts, not seeing spam, more ways to interact (bring back pets, gifts, superpokes etc)) they'd do ok. It doesn't help that their core code is a steaming pile of bloated dung that doesn't seem to be tested by anyone…

> Facebook is dying because they stopped being Facebook

a) No evidence they are dying. All we have is a single quarter's result i.e. statistically meaningless.

b) No evidence that staying true to the original Facebook is the best strategy. Unquestionably, Stories has been a popular feature in both Instagram and Facebook ecosystems and perhaps certain features from TikTok will be the same.

But there is plenty of evidence that the opinions of HN, Reddit etc. often do not match that of the broader public and so should be taken with a grain of salt.

Re: Facebook's TikTok-like redesign marks sunset of social networking era

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Post by aurelius12 »

capybara_2020 wrote: post #66
SrslyJosh wrote: post #6

Nobody hates Facebook users more than Facebook, I guess. :-/ I've tried to type out several pithy comments, but the bottom line (to me) is that Facebook just doesn't respect its users or care about their needs. Can you imagine if brick-and-mortar businesses tried to do this? You go out for a Big Mac, but it's not on the menu anymore because Taco Bell had a few really good quarters, so McDonald's decided to pivot to t…

Didn't Facebook already die years back? People moved onto Instagram, Whatsapp, Snap and a few other places already. The only reason Facebook was able to pull along was because it bought Insta and Whatsapp so they did not have to compete. But that now that they have to actually compete, the cracks are showing.

That's a strange take isn't it? Facebook has like twice the # of daily users as Instagram, and 6x that of Snap...

Re: Facebook's TikTok-like redesign marks sunset of social networking era

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Post by Drew_ »

citizenkeen wrote: post #44
rvz wrote: post #27

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Meta already knew Facebook would sink someday. As they have Instagram, they don't care and Meta will be around for another 10 years to extract more from Instagram and their other unused platforms. I'd expect the hype and growth around TikTok to peak once their parent company IPOs, as more corporations, advertisers, mainstream media accounts, move in to the platform to ruin it just like they did with the rest of the o…

Why would ByteDance IPO?

To make even more money

Re: Facebook's TikTok-like redesign marks sunset of social networking era

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Post by throw_m239339 »

rascul wrote: post #64

Facebook will die with what is currently the older generation. They're addicted, and while they're still around, Facebook will survive. Nobody else seems to care so much about Facebook anymore.

All social networks are fads and generational, Tik Tok is no different. I think Facebook still has value when it comes to private social networking and marketplace. Tik Tok isn't made for any of that.

Personally I don't like Tik Tok. I'm sure there is good content on that platform but I don't like the format, just like I despise Twitter. It's all made for people with a short attention spam and I've seen way too much creepy and unhinged stuff on it.

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