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Re: Facebook's TikTok-like redesign marks sunset of social networking era

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Post by marcosdumay »

SrslyJosh wrote: post #6

Nobody hates Facebook users more than Facebook, I guess. :-/ I've tried to type out several pithy comments, but the bottom line (to me) is that Facebook just doesn't respect its users or care about their needs. Can you imagine if brick-and-mortar businesses tried to do this? You go out for a Big Mac, but it's not on the menu anymore because Taco Bell had a few really good quarters, so McDonald's decided to pivot to t…

Hum... Just like any SaaS company out there.

I wonder if somebody will create a "keep track of your friends" application again. There is obviously a need, but there isn't a channel that enables it to appear anymore, unless Google allows (hum... that's how industries die).

Anyway, user hostile is how any software acts nowadays. From becoming difficult to interact with, exploiting the user on unexpected ways, all the way into refusing to fulfill its primary use case. Users don't seem to care.

Re: Facebook's TikTok-like redesign marks sunset of social networking era

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Post by Spooky23 »

yalogin wrote: post #8
SrslyJosh wrote: post #6

Nobody hates Facebook users more than Facebook, I guess. :-/ I've tried to type out several pithy comments, but the bottom line (to me) is that Facebook just doesn't respect its users or care about their needs. Can you imagine if brick-and-mortar businesses tried to do this? You go out for a Big Mac, but it's not on the menu anymore because Taco Bell had a few really good quarters, so McDonald's decided to pivot to t…

It’s not that easy. This is life and death for Facebook. TikTok is really taking over and is a force. It’s also a Chinese company and so they can’t buy it. They are forced to compete, either they do this or become fully irrelevant

Good luck. TikTok is amazing.

Facebook tries so hard to push junk and noise content at you it’s ridiculous. They’ve become a parody of themselves, and the obvious knockoff of TikTok looks pitiful.

Re: Facebook's TikTok-like redesign marks sunset of social networking era

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Post by choward »

SrslyJosh wrote: post #6

Nobody hates Facebook users more than Facebook, I guess. :-/ I've tried to type out several pithy comments, but the bottom line (to me) is that Facebook just doesn't respect its users or care about their needs. Can you imagine if brick-and-mortar businesses tried to do this? You go out for a Big Mac, but it's not on the menu anymore because Taco Bell had a few really good quarters, so McDonald's decided to pivot to t…

> Nobody hates Facebook users more than Facebook

And nobody hates Facebook more than Facebook users. I don't use Facebook and because of that I don't have many problems with it. Same goes for the people that don't use Facebook that I know. The only people I see complaining about Facebook are Facebook users.

Re: Facebook's TikTok-like redesign marks sunset of social networking era

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Post by chitowneats »

QuarterReptile wrote: post #45
chitowneats wrote: post #30

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Sorry, why is creole being referenced here? Is this an inside joke/reference I'm not familiar with? Is it a typo? Edit: Thank you all for the replies. I am aware of and respectful of the literal definition. The usage on the comment I responded to strikes me as either antiquated, inaccurate, or a typo.

'creole' has developed a linguistic meaning that parallels the ethnic one you may be interpreting. From Wikipedia: a stable natural language that develops from the simplifying and mixing of different languages into a new one within a fairly brief period of time: often, a pidgin evolved into a full-fledged language. I still found the comment to be a bit of a stretch with that usage.

Agreed.

Is there not a better or more general word we have for this these days in English?

Maybe we could borrow it from the Germans. I do like words like Schadenfreude.

Re: Facebook's TikTok-like redesign marks sunset of social networking era

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Post by capybara_2020 »

SrslyJosh wrote: post #6

Nobody hates Facebook users more than Facebook, I guess. :-/ I've tried to type out several pithy comments, but the bottom line (to me) is that Facebook just doesn't respect its users or care about their needs. Can you imagine if brick-and-mortar businesses tried to do this? You go out for a Big Mac, but it's not on the menu anymore because Taco Bell had a few really good quarters, so McDonald's decided to pivot to t…

Didn't Facebook already die years back? People moved onto Instagram, Whatsapp, Snap and a few other places already. The only reason Facebook was able to pull along was because it bought Insta and Whatsapp so they did not have to compete. But that now that they have to actually compete, the cracks are showing.

Re: Facebook's TikTok-like redesign marks sunset of social networking era

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Post by nine_k »

naravara wrote: post #41
groffee wrote: post #35

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Facebook is dying, but not because of TikTok. Facebook is dying because they stopped being Facebook. If they gave what's left of their userbase what they actually wanted (chronological feed, seeing friends posts, not seeing spam, more ways to interact (bring back pets, gifts, superpokes etc)) they'd do ok. It doesn't help that their core code is a steaming pile of bloated dung that doesn't seem to be tested by anyone…

When I started using Facebook it wasn't a newsfeed, it was just a personal homepage with a photo album and a bulletin board attached. I'd love to have something like that again that everyone uses, but everything is about goosing the influencer economy now rather than letting me socialize.

It almost sounds as if there is a niche for that!

BTW have you tried dreamwidth.org, a fork of the venerable livejournal.com? They look as if 2005 had never ended,in a good sense.

Re: Facebook's TikTok-like redesign marks sunset of social networking era

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Post by yalogin »

tomlin wrote: post #24
yalogin wrote: post #8

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It’s not that easy. This is life and death for Facebook. TikTok is really taking over and is a force. It’s also a Chinese company and so they can’t buy it. They are forced to compete, either they do this or become fully irrelevant

> TikTok is really taking over and is a force. So that means what? That other social medias can't exist unless they are on the absolute top? Sounds like a race to the bottom, patched up with investor creole language bullshit.

Did you forget how Friendster and the ones before lost their user base overnight? Facebook was not in that situation because so far there hasn’t been a worthy competitor. They bought the last two, and it’s not possible with TikTok. Facebook is pissing it’s meta pants.

Re: Facebook's TikTok-like redesign marks sunset of social networking era

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Post by grishka »

throwaway892238 wrote: post #21

Did Facebook ever really need to become such a behemoth? Could they not have been mildly profitable just hosting pictures and helping people stay connected? Would it have been impossible for them to simply keep operating without capitalism's Blob-like need for growth at all costs?

It's the IT industry we're talking about here. I feel like no one in IT is capable of "just stopping" when the product is good enough. Everything is required to have scope creep or at the very least feature creep and regular UI redesigns for no good reason, seemingly by law.

Re: Facebook's TikTok-like redesign marks sunset of social networking era

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Post by AmericanChopper »

RichardCNormos wrote: post #25

> TikTok-style "discovery engine" model shares many of the same problems. > - Posts are even less rooted in a web of social relationship. > - The larger the crowd, the louder the threshold for speech to be heard. This is prescient. The "social media" of today is more like Napster than it is like the the early-2000s Facebook: * People look for content that they want (political rage, softcore pornography, funny videos)…

Yet somehow me and my group of friends all use Instagram to keep in touch in the same way we’ve done for years, and in the same way we will likely continue to do so for years longer, mostly undisturbed by the changes that come and go…
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