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Blaming something on the user is very very common everywhere. For example with car accidents (drunk drivers), guns (mentally ill people), etc.
Car accidents and guns are not the same as an automatic robot. You could compare this to tesla. Users are blamed when it's the sole responsibility of user on how that thing can be used.
The answer from the federation is unconscionable. They blamed the boy and then said they could not be held responsible. Fuck off, a kid made a reasonable kid movement. If the robot wasn't ready to be around children, it shouldn't have been deployed around children. And there should have been a big red button that immediately everything, within reach of every player.
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>I found it a surprisingly insightful social commentary And how did you determine that it is insightful? The video starts with the guy confidently saying that Alcatraz is a nickname of a Moscow prison (!!!), apparently having no clue that the Russian name of the game doesn't have anything to do with prisons and the name 'Planet Alcatraz' is given to the English edition of the game. If you have no idea what you talkin…
He said no such thing, he said that the planet was named "Матросская тишина" (seaman's silence) after this prison https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Matrosskaya_Tishina . And you are aware that he's playing the russian version of the game, right? Translating some bits for the english audience. I'm sure he's perfectly aware what the name of the game is in russian (it's literally in the first shot of the video). Seems like…
'Seems like you watched 5min to just quickly find something to discredit and immediately dismiss it'
That's quite an uncharitable interpretation. You are right about one thing though -- I gave up quite early.
"I see no reason why it couldn't be an "Interesting perspective" or "insightful social commentary""
In the context of judging the American nation as a whole -- of course not.
The answer from the federation is unconscionable. They blamed the boy and then said they could not be held responsible. Fuck off, a kid made a reasonable kid movement. If the robot wasn't ready to be around children, it shouldn't have been deployed around children. And there should have been a big red button that immediately everything, within reach of every player.
Honestly, as someone that researches ML, this is my major concern. It isn't AGI that has the potential to kill us, it is current ML systems that can't handle OOD data and engineers put it in place because "that's the user's fault." Same reason we have Teslas crashing. AI safety might talk about AGI a lot, but their main area of research is modern systems and concerns over that. OOD data is really hard to deal with FW…
This means we are going to have the equivalent of GC in robots that interact with other humans.
This is appalling. There is no world in which an industrial robot like that should be operating next to a child. Their force sensors are not nearly sensitive enough to stop before causing serious injury. Going fast enough, they can absolutely kill you. This just screams negligence to me. Cannot believe they tried to blame it on the child. There are robots, called Cobots, designed specifically for this type of environ…
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Your complaint about this thread making heated overgeneralizations is valid. It's not fair to generalize a single incident as being representative of an entire culture. Which is ironic, because you then go on to make a similar mistake with inflammatory statements like this: > I know where that way of reasoning had led you and what you did towards Jews, Romani, Black people, Latinos and Arabs. You sick duplicitous fac…
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This videogame review from a YouTube channel called Warlockracy is actually also a really interesting perspective on at least some aspects of Russian subcultures and their prominence, I found it a surprisingly insightful social commentary wrapped up in an entertaining vid. 1. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CJ_PiXLVaJ8 (~45mins) The second video is more serious but also rather interesting (clips from it became very p…
"Operating under the assumption that the video isn't misrepresenting the cultural aspects of Russia" And why do you operate under this assumption? The guy keeps saying '[In Russia] conservatives have always had power.' Was Lenin a conservative? Very few countries undergone such radical changes as Russia. The one thing he repeats even more is 'infallible Tsar'. Let me tell you a secret -- Putin have ruled for so long…
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> AGI alignment is a vastly bigger problem But also far less likely to happen anytime soon. A bigger danger is when someone thinks a machine is sentient or "semi-conscious" (whatever that means) and naively uses it to do tasks it shouldn't.
I think that's a reasonable stance, but only for some values of "soon". In a hundred years, we may well have AGI. At that time, we better have developed a robust science for how to control them. This is a somewhat unrelated problem to the current problem of machine/AI safety and both require more focus than they currently get.
If I were an AGI robot I would be scared of getting swatted for lols.
This is appalling. There is no world in which an industrial robot like that should be operating next to a child. Their force sensors are not nearly sensitive enough to stop before causing serious injury. Going fast enough, they can absolutely kill you. This just screams negligence to me. Cannot believe they tried to blame it on the child. There are robots, called Cobots, designed specifically for this type of environ…