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Re: I've started using Firefox and can never go back to Chrome

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Post by invalidname »

jlokier wrote: post #206
invalidname wrote: post #21

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Odd. I've been on Mac for more than a decade so no idea. Notice that this only became a thing with Quantum so if you used an older version of FF it wouldn't apply.

I'm with the GP on this: FF is unstable with lots of tabs. It's a big memory hog, and it's been like this for about 2 years in my experience so far. I'm using a Mac with 16GB RAM, and it's not enough for Firefox any more (something changed, it used to use less memory). Using current FF (103.0b9). Lot of tabs, but auto tab-unloading so there shouldn't be a large number active. Reported memory use (in Activity Monitor)…

I think this is due to specific sites. I try to avoid Google Docs and have a separate instance of Chrome only for that. I updated to the M1 Max with 64gb so even if FF slowed down at some point I wouldn't know at this point. But it was OK on my previous air which was pretty weak.

Re: I've started using Firefox and can never go back to Chrome

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Post by Tagbert »

kretaceous wrote: post #28

Along with obvious ones like uBlock Origin working perfectly, etc., I have 2 other favorites: - Native reader mode - Native PiP mode for videos Yes, you can get extensions for this in Chrom(e/ium) but having these as a native feature is really nice. Things I want to see in Firefox: - Good/extensible keybindings - Tab groups - Tab search EDIT: How do I break sentences to newline in HN without really making a new parag…

I use Panorama Tab Groups. It lets me create groups of tabs (obviously) for each project. Each project has 10-20 tabs and I can quickly switch between them. It means that most times, I only have 10-20 tabs visible. Makes things much easier to navigate and keep track of.

Re: I've started using Firefox and can never go back to Chrome

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Post by zh3 »

amelius wrote: post #113
rraghur wrote: post #57

You'll have to pry Firefox from my cold, dead hands! At the outset, yes, chromium based browsers feel snappier.. But, stuff that Chrome will not have and are absolutely essential 1. Containers... I use another unverified extension to match urls and automatically assign containers... 2. Ublock origin 3. Tree style tabs 4. Developer console... Edit and resend any request That said, i still end up using chromium for tea…

Perhaps someone can build a container system around chrome (or in fact any application). Ideally, an OS should be able to do something like this.

On linux, just create a separate login and use Chrome there. In fact, what I do is create a separate user, start Chrome once, do any configuration I want and then create a tarball of the separate user's home directory. Then to start a fresh it's just a wipe of the whole directory and unpack the tarball again.

It's fast enough to just run Chrome in a loop, and on each exit wipe and unpack the original state again.

I call it Groundhog Day Mode.

Re: I've started using Firefox and can never go back to Chrome

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Post by UncleSlacky »

lordnacho wrote: post #95
dmytrish wrote: post #46

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Tree Style Tabs solved the tab grouping problem for me. I like to put it on the right and I'm looking for a way to have the tab bar hidden. Tab search exists: https://support.mozilla.org/en-US/kb/search-open-tabs-firefo... , also you type % into the address bar to start searching over tabs. Not sure if this covers your needs, though.

TST is literally the killer feature for FF. It's actually the only reason I went to FF, it was getting out of hand to have all my tabs across the top, and it makes little sense with modern screens being so wide that giving up a little horizontal space to get legible titles is absolutely worth it. Someone in Chrome/Edge/Safari must be thinking about doing this, I don't know why it hasn't been cloned. Can't be too hard…

Vivaldi does this too.

Re: I've started using Firefox and can never go back to Chrome

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Post by zamadatix »

patrick451 wrote: post #175

I used to use firefox exclusively. But they have been on a road of adding increasinly user hostile "features" to the browser that I just can't take. I snapped when they implemented automatic updates. I've never been so pissed at a piece of software than I have been at firefox when I hit Ctrl-T and the damn thing refuses to work until I restart it. And for a long time, it wouldn't even restart, it just exited. While I…

Firefox has always had automatic updates but only on systems that don't manage the software updates via centralized package manager. E.g. any chance you're an Ubuntu user? They just switched it over to being a snap package instead of an apt package with 21.10.

Regardless if you open settings UI there is a radiobox to toggle between auto-installing updates and just notifying you when your version is out of date. If that's not there then it's your distro's build that is forcing updates to be done that way, not Mozilla.

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Post by alex_sf »

wnevets wrote: post #203
marginalia_nu wrote: post #93

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I feel this sort of black-and-white thinking about morality is responsible for a lot of problems. Short of moving into the desert and becoming some sort of Hesychastic hermit, it's difficult, near impossible to lead a life where you do no evil. The conclusion many draw from that is not to even bother trying. I think the better conclusion is to be forgiving of the failings of others, because they too struggle with thi…

Reminds of "You say you want to improve society and yet you live in one, how interesting"

I still don't understand why that's a bad argument. In context, it's generally used to oppose hard leftist ideas (Marxism, etc). It's rarely a criticism leveled at reasonable reform or change; more when it nears outright revolution. In that case, it's not an unreasonable criticism.

Re: I've started using Firefox and can never go back to Chrome

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Post by Tagbert »

loloquwowndueo wrote: post #81
kretaceous wrote: post #28

Along with obvious ones like uBlock Origin working perfectly, etc., I have 2 other favorites: - Native reader mode - Native PiP mode for videos Yes, you can get extensions for this in Chrom(e/ium) but having these as a native feature is really nice. Things I want to see in Firefox: - Good/extensible keybindings - Tab groups - Tab search EDIT: How do I break sentences to newline in HN without really making a new parag…

If you need tab groups and tab search, you’re using tabs wrong. Bookmarks exist for that purpose and they do have search and grouping (folders). Coworkers look at me like I’m a freak because I usually keep fewer than 10 tabs open :)

I usually work on about 5 projects at a time. During a given day I will switch between those projects at least once an hour. With Panorama Tab Groups, I only see about 10-20 tabs at a time and they are all specific to the current project. when i switch, it does it all at once and the pages don’t reload. They retain their state. I can be editing something in one tab group, switch to another tab group to check on a dependency, and then switch back to the firs group to finish editing.

I do use bookmarks for longer term organization but my workspace is all handled in tab groups.

Re: I've started using Firefox and can never go back to Chrome

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Post by ta988 »

_fat_santa wrote: post #174
phkahler wrote: post #151

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A team owner can advocate for safety related rules in a league while not having his own players adopt those changes and start losing. Warren Buffet can advocate for changes in the tax laws that benefit the country while still playing hard by the existing rules. Authors can advocate for changes to the web while their host is still doing the bad thing. These can be seen as hypocrisy, but I think there is a large dose o…

True in theory but you also have to consider most writers are just freelance and therefore have zero pull with the publisher.

And many are just desperate to have a publisher at all.

Re: I've started using Firefox and can never go back to Chrome

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Post by jraph »

loloquwowndueo wrote: post #81
kretaceous wrote: post #28

Along with obvious ones like uBlock Origin working perfectly, etc., I have 2 other favorites: - Native reader mode - Native PiP mode for videos Yes, you can get extensions for this in Chrom(e/ium) but having these as a native feature is really nice. Things I want to see in Firefox: - Good/extensible keybindings - Tab groups - Tab search EDIT: How do I break sentences to newline in HN without really making a new parag…

If you need tab groups and tab search, you’re using tabs wrong. Bookmarks exist for that purpose and they do have search and grouping (folders). Coworkers look at me like I’m a freak because I usually keep fewer than 10 tabs open :)

Why would it be wrong if it works?

I don't use groups (I liked them when tab groups were a feature of Firefox). I search for tabs by typing stuff in the awesome bar, that works.

I always have a lot of tabs and kill everything from times to times. But it's nice to reach a tab that's already loaded when you need it, instead of reloading the page every time, making a network access, using resources and having to wait. A page being already open is also a hint that it's something I accessed recently and that it's most likely the thing I need.

I don't want to waste my time managing bookmarks (actually the sibling comment from lamacase captures my view very well on this). That's not how I use a browser. But it's good they are there for people like you who find a use for it.

Re: I've started using Firefox and can never go back to Chrome

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Post by SamuelAdams »

kahnclusions wrote: post #45

I've switched from Firefox to Safari for most of my browsing, and Chrome for anything that needs devtools. Why? Battery. Efficiency. On the new M1 Macbooks I can run Safari and be unplugged all day long. The increased power consumption and battery drain is noticeable when using FF and I can't make it all the way through the day. As far as extensions go, I have 1Blocker and it works well, it does block YouTube ads. Th…

I tried safari, but the lack of extensions is a major turn off. How do you browse the web without uBlock Origin or “I don’t care about cookies”?
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