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Re: I've started using Firefox and can never go back to Chrome

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Post by tomComb »

GekkePrutser wrote: post #80
thrown1aways wrote: post #42

Earlier quoted context omitted.

>The article specifically talks of Google breaking those AdBlock extensions I bet there will be a Chromium for without that + Brave is already working on it. Power of open source I guess?

Every feature removed by Google will have to be maintained by the open source community instead. That's going to be a workload that I'm not sure who is going to pick up. After all Chromium right now is maintained by Google. There's some forks like degoogled chromium but they are mainly focused on removing features, not rebuilding ones that have been deprecated. Brave is an option but I don't really like where they're…

Oh, no, Microsoft, Brave, and all the other companies that repackage Chrome will have to actually contribute to the base (or a fork). /s

Re: I've started using Firefox and can never go back to Chrome

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Post by lxgr »

loloquwowndueo wrote: post #81
kretaceous wrote: post #28

Along with obvious ones like uBlock Origin working perfectly, etc., I have 2 other favorites: - Native reader mode - Native PiP mode for videos Yes, you can get extensions for this in Chrom(e/ium) but having these as a native feature is really nice. Things I want to see in Firefox: - Good/extensible keybindings - Tab groups - Tab search EDIT: How do I break sentences to newline in HN without really making a new parag…

If you need tab groups and tab search, you’re using tabs wrong. Bookmarks exist for that purpose and they do have search and grouping (folders). Coworkers look at me like I’m a freak because I usually keep fewer than 10 tabs open :)

Bookmarks and tabs serve different use cases.

The former don't preserve login state (and site state in general) or scroll position, navigating between them requires an internet connection and often uses significant data (important when working from a metered and/or unreliable connection like on a train or plane), just to name a few differences.

Re: I've started using Firefox and can never go back to Chrome

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Post by lolinder »

mikkergp wrote: post #159
binarymax wrote: post #44

I don’t intend to diminish the article itself, since yes ditching chrome and Google is a win for personal privacy. But I can’t ignore the irony of this article loading dozens of trackers. Like, is the cognitive dissonance that bad in web publishing? Do the teams writing the content not know about the way the publisher presents the data? Is this just pure hypocrisy? I’m at a loss.

The primary goal of this article is clearly ad impressions, any attempt to educate and inform on privacy is clearly secondary.

The article encourages people to install uBlock. If it's primarily designed to drive ads, that's some bad short-term thinking.

Re: I've started using Firefox and can never go back to Chrome

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Post by _fat_santa »

phkahler wrote: post #151
for1nner wrote: post #50

Earlier quoted context omitted.

In fairness, the person writing the article doesn't really have a say in the infra that the publisher is using. I agree that doesn't make the hypocrisy magically disappear, but it shouldn't detract from the points being made about the platforms we use to access the web.

A team owner can advocate for safety related rules in a league while not having his own players adopt those changes and start losing. Warren Buffet can advocate for changes in the tax laws that benefit the country while still playing hard by the existing rules. Authors can advocate for changes to the web while their host is still doing the bad thing. These can be seen as hypocrisy, but I think there is a large dose o…

True in theory but you also have to consider most writers are just freelance and therefore have zero pull with the publisher.

Re: I've started using Firefox and can never go back to Chrome

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Post by patrick451 »

I used to use firefox exclusively.

But they have been on a road of adding increasinly user hostile "features" to the browser that I just can't take.

I snapped when they implemented automatic updates. I've never been so pissed at a piece of software than I have been at firefox when I hit Ctrl-T and the damn thing refuses to work until I restart it. And for a long time, it wouldn't even restart, it just exited.

While I'd prefer to install updates manually through apt (like every other piece of software on my laptop), if they are going to be so patronizing that they won't allow that, they need to fix they update process to not require a restart. Until that happens I'll use chromium.

Re: I've started using Firefox and can never go back to Chrome

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Post by koonsolo »

the_gipsy wrote: post #168
Kiro wrote: post #148

I'm making browser games and there are some still some performance issues that make my game unplayable in Firefox, e.g. https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=925025 I really don't want to have a "works best in Chrome" banner but until Firefox catches up I don't have much choice (don't get me started on Safari, I've already given up).

I assure you, if you had developed against firefox first, you would have found "performance bugs" on chrome. Source: I developed a web game.

For me, it seems with the latest update of firefox, some textures are not rendered properly. All works fine in the other browsers.

Before that, some other update gave issues with some certificate.

Looking at all the issues this browser causes, and the very low usage, I'm not spending time tracking down what is going wrong.

Safari on iOS is such another problem child, but used high enough to justify the time to investigate and fix.

Re: I've started using Firefox and can never go back to Chrome

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Post by doliveira »

tryauuum wrote: post #15
doliveira wrote: post #2

Firefox is worth it if only for the Ctrl-Tab going in recently used order. I hate using Chrome and needing to use the mouse to actually find a tab

Funny enough, for me it's extremely uncomfortable when tab cycling doesn't represent the tab order I see on screen. I've always disable that feature and even have code to autodisable it on new installs

With MRU order the stack order becomes automatically grouped by subject, like actual function stacks.

Re: I've started using Firefox and can never go back to Chrome

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Post by Zekio »

anyone else find that only Firefox behaves properly when opening up a saved state that opens multiple windows on multiple virtual desktops.

I've had problems with both Edge and Chrome changing the current virtual desktop or behaving weird until I click at least once on every window that opens

Re: I've started using Firefox and can never go back to Chrome

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Post by ichik »

kretaceous wrote: post #28

Along with obvious ones like uBlock Origin working perfectly, etc., I have 2 other favorites: - Native reader mode - Native PiP mode for videos Yes, you can get extensions for this in Chrom(e/ium) but having these as a native feature is really nice. Things I want to see in Firefox: - Good/extensible keybindings - Tab groups - Tab search EDIT: How do I break sentences to newline in HN without really making a new parag…

There is tab search (and history, and bookmarks for that matter) from the address bar (i.e. typing `% foo` will search all tabs for `foo`). I don't know if it's turned on by default, but you can set it up from “Search shortcuts” settings section.

Re: I've started using Firefox and can never go back to Chrome

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Post by a2800276 »

dylan604 wrote: post #47
binarymax wrote: post #44

I don’t intend to diminish the article itself, since yes ditching chrome and Google is a win for personal privacy. But I can’t ignore the irony of this article loading dozens of trackers. Like, is the cognitive dissonance that bad in web publishing? Do the teams writing the content not know about the way the publisher presents the data? Is this just pure hypocrisy? I’m at a loss.

An author doesn't get to choose what the website of the publisher does. It's not like this is the author's personal website that they have decided to put all of these trackers on it. This is a voice crying from within the system about how bad the system is. Is there a lot of cognitive dissonance in understanding how web publishing works?

An author does get to choose which platform they publish on. I'm really surprised by all the apologists here, the article is clearly click bait trying to cram ads down your throat. The real irony is that while the post is bearable to look at in chrome it's near enough unreadable in Firefox.
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