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Re: I've started using Firefox and can never go back to Chrome

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Post by phkahler »

for1nner wrote: post #50
binarymax wrote: post #44

I don’t intend to diminish the article itself, since yes ditching chrome and Google is a win for personal privacy. But I can’t ignore the irony of this article loading dozens of trackers. Like, is the cognitive dissonance that bad in web publishing? Do the teams writing the content not know about the way the publisher presents the data? Is this just pure hypocrisy? I’m at a loss.

In fairness, the person writing the article doesn't really have a say in the infra that the publisher is using. I agree that doesn't make the hypocrisy magically disappear, but it shouldn't detract from the points being made about the platforms we use to access the web.

A team owner can advocate for safety related rules in a league while not having his own players adopt those changes and start losing.

Warren Buffet can advocate for changes in the tax laws that benefit the country while still playing hard by the existing rules.

Authors can advocate for changes to the web while their host is still doing the bad thing.

These can be seen as hypocrisy, but I think there is a large dose of honesty and in some cases humility in these situations.

Re: I've started using Firefox and can never go back to Chrome

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Post by jeltz »

abandonliberty wrote: post #114
binarymax wrote: post #44

I don’t intend to diminish the article itself, since yes ditching chrome and Google is a win for personal privacy. But I can’t ignore the irony of this article loading dozens of trackers. Like, is the cognitive dissonance that bad in web publishing? Do the teams writing the content not know about the way the publisher presents the data? Is this just pure hypocrisy? I’m at a loss.

Is it a win? Last I heard FF was generating a unique identifier on each installer download. https://www.ghacks.net/2022/03/17/each-firefox-download-has-... I'm hoping the Duck Duck Go browser or Vivaldi is better.

Chrome does the same and more. So, yes, it is a win. But Firefox should really stop doing that.

Re: I've started using Firefox and can never go back to Chrome

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Post by ghoomketu »

Kiro wrote: post #148

I'm making browser games and there are some still some performance issues that make my game unplayable in Firefox, e.g. https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=925025 I really don't want to have a "works best in Chrome" banner but until Firefox catches up I don't have much choice (don't get me started on Safari, I've already given up).

Same for me, my app used the html5 webspeech api and the text to speech and speech to text on Ff was nothing compared to chrome. So had to put that dreaded banner myself.

I hope things have changed now and ff is just as good as chrome now with the recent progress in ML and so many good open source projects for tts and dictation.

Re: I've started using Firefox and can never go back to Chrome

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Post by t6jvcereio »

unpopularopp wrote: post #25

I don't get the extensions part. All of them apart from the containers (that's a browser or more like engine specific behavior) are available for Chrome so they are not FF-only. Most of them are "over the top" if you start with uBlock Origin too. Like you don't need multiple extensions to do the same thing > most of the time that leads to broken sites. uBlock Origin on its own is incredibly powerful. Last but not lea…

You're fixating on the details too much, but if you wanna fixate on details, you can't install unlock origin in chrome Android.

The big picture however, is that Firefox works for you, chrome works for Google.

Re: I've started using Firefox and can never go back to Chrome

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Post by TheArcane »

dmytrish wrote: post #46
kretaceous wrote: post #28

Along with obvious ones like uBlock Origin working perfectly, etc., I have 2 other favorites: - Native reader mode - Native PiP mode for videos Yes, you can get extensions for this in Chrom(e/ium) but having these as a native feature is really nice. Things I want to see in Firefox: - Good/extensible keybindings - Tab groups - Tab search EDIT: How do I break sentences to newline in HN without really making a new parag…

Tree Style Tabs solved the tab grouping problem for me. I like to put it on the right and I'm looking for a way to have the tab bar hidden. Tab search exists: https://support.mozilla.org/en-US/kb/search-open-tabs-firefo... , also you type % into the address bar to start searching over tabs. Not sure if this covers your needs, though.

Tab search doesn't work across containers afaik and it's therefore pretty useless

Re: I've started using Firefox and can never go back to Chrome

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Post by kretaceous »

loloquwowndueo wrote: post #81
kretaceous wrote: post #28

Along with obvious ones like uBlock Origin working perfectly, etc., I have 2 other favorites: - Native reader mode - Native PiP mode for videos Yes, you can get extensions for this in Chrom(e/ium) but having these as a native feature is really nice. Things I want to see in Firefox: - Good/extensible keybindings - Tab groups - Tab search EDIT: How do I break sentences to newline in HN without really making a new parag…

If you need tab groups and tab search, you’re using tabs wrong. Bookmarks exist for that purpose and they do have search and grouping (folders). Coworkers look at me like I’m a freak because I usually keep fewer than 10 tabs open :)

> Coworkers look at me like I’m a freak because I usually keep fewer than 10 tabs open :)

Haha! That's me. My maximum is 15 and then my cleanliness ghost kicks in. I said tab groups because I like organization even if it's just 10 tabs. I honestly don't know why I said tab search.

Re: I've started using Firefox and can never go back to Chrome

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Post by mikkergp »

binarymax wrote: post #44

I don’t intend to diminish the article itself, since yes ditching chrome and Google is a win for personal privacy. But I can’t ignore the irony of this article loading dozens of trackers. Like, is the cognitive dissonance that bad in web publishing? Do the teams writing the content not know about the way the publisher presents the data? Is this just pure hypocrisy? I’m at a loss.

The primary goal of this article is clearly ad impressions, any attempt to educate and inform on privacy is clearly secondary.

Re: I've started using Firefox and can never go back to Chrome

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Post by kretaceous »

5e92cb50239222b wrote: post #69
kretaceous wrote: post #54

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I should be clear. What I was referring to when I said `keybindings` is browser/developer keybindings that are not yet made configurable. There's been an open issue for 7 years asking for a shortcut key for the eyedropper[0]. The navigation between developer panels is also a bit tedious. The page focus key, F6, is not configurable. These are some instances I was thinking when I said I wanted good keybinding support.…

> focus key, F6 JFYI, Alt+D and Ctrl+L also work.

These only focus the address bar, no? I want the other way round. I want to focus the page when the focus is outside it, like the address bar.
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