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Waymo car swarmed by skaters in San Francisco 'hill bomb'

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Re: Waymo car swarmed by skaters in San Francisco 'hill bomb'

#102

The way we build cities around the car in the USA is kind of a blight, so I can't help but be somewhat relieved to see that other people look at these Waymo cars, with all that they stand for, as worthy of ridicule.

What if cities were built around public transit? Like trains? Or what about small trains that seat 4 people, and can go along many aboveground tracks?

Sounds like a fantastic idea for a developing country that has a windfall of money. Hard to realize when the city is already built.

Re: Waymo car swarmed by skaters in San Francisco 'hill bomb'

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Watching videos of this event reminds me of a comedian's bit where he talks about watching Rocky when he was young versus today. When he was young, he would cheer Rocky on while eating those raw eggs. When he watched it when he was older he thought about how hard it would be to get those egg stains off his sweatshirt. I guess that's all to say that I am of the age where I see a bunch of young men shutting down a stre…

I worry about egg stains on sweatshirts too. Some folks join us with age. Others live life right up to the brim, good for em I say. The world needs all kinds. Reminds me of Cooper's Hill Cheese-Rolling and Wake. It's this race in Gloucester, England. It's been going on since the early 1800s. Folks run down a 45 degree hill for 200 yards to catch a 10 pound rolling cheese wheel. It's as dangerous as it sounds, but fun…

I'm not sure your comment about swapping out the cheese for foam is true. I did the roll a few years back (in fact I'm sorta in the Netflix We Are The Champions episode about it). The cheese is basically wrapped in a wooden wheel, and let loose.

Best I can find is that in 2013 [1] it was swapped for foam. But I don't think they continued that decision.

[1] https://www.theguardian.com/uk/2013/may/27/gloucestershire-c...

Re: Waymo car swarmed by skaters in San Francisco 'hill bomb'

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Skateboarding culture is really stupid about safety gear. If they wore the same stuff longboarders wore when going down big slopes, the sport wouldn’t be nearly as dangerous.

Cars kill a million people every single year. And seriously injure 100x many more. I can't really care about skater safety equipment when we allow cars to exist.

This is called a strawman argument.

Re: Waymo car swarmed by skaters in San Francisco 'hill bomb'

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Idk after a few near death experiences with people racing by me in SF, I'm cool with kids finding fun in other places. I did a lot of dangerous stupid shit with my car as a teenager. Some of my friends were seriously injured doing similar things. Fortunately we never killed anybody, but not worth it.

This wasn't particularly dangerous. It was confined to a mile of a 4 lane road, straight, well lit, the businesses were set back a ways, no traffic. The kids knew if they caused trouble they'd be shut down. Frankly it was mostly just revving engines and showing off. In those days you could buy a working 440 roadrunner that'd press your eyeballs back in their sockets for $400. I almost bought a 68 Chevy Super Sport wi…

Your last sentence is a strawman argument.

After all your description sounds somehow safe, the problem would still be a ton accelaterated in public space which has nothing to do with free climbing

Re: Waymo car swarmed by skaters in San Francisco 'hill bomb'

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I was actually there for this event (just as a spectator): most of the people were gathered down at the intersection. The car came down the hill, and then it slowed down as it approaching the intersection because there were.. obviously a ton of people in the intersection. _Then_ everyone swarmed the car / surrounded it / jumped on it / tagged it. It basically didn't move while this was happening. Then eventually the…

But according to the article the car had a driver in it, that "got out safely". Besides the car being a Waymo (which may or may not be part of the reason why it was "swarmed"), it must not have been such a great experience for the driver to be circled and have people jumping on the car bonnet and roof, I guess it could have happened to any car happening to pass by that intersection.

Other cars did try to pass through the intersection, and were also stopped / surrounded / jumped on. But for a lot less time, with fewer people jumping on it, and as far as I can tell, the Waymo was the only one that was tagged. Definitely would not have been a pleasant experience.

And all cars were eventually let through after some heckling / jumping.

Re: Waymo car swarmed by skaters in San Francisco 'hill bomb'

#107
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Yes but please don’t wreck innocent peoples property and life with your dreams. Be a human!

> and life The only sign I see of anybody getting injured (much less killed) here is a skateboarder, which seems to me to be a self-imposed risk. Did I miss some innocent people getting hurt somewhere?

they just wanted to give us a friendly reminder, its all good :)

Re: Waymo car swarmed by skaters in San Francisco 'hill bomb'

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This wasn't particularly dangerous. It was confined to a mile of a 4 lane road, straight, well lit, the businesses were set back a ways, no traffic. The kids knew if they caused trouble they'd be shut down. Frankly it was mostly just revving engines and showing off. In those days you could buy a working 440 roadrunner that'd press your eyeballs back in their sockets for $400. I almost bought a 68 Chevy Super Sport wi…

Your last sentence is a strawman argument. After all your description sounds somehow safe, the problem would still be a ton accelaterated in public space which has nothing to do with free climbing

Things were different in those days. It was the peak of American car culture. Kids got their driver's license on their 16th birthday, not well into their 20's like today. Driving a cool car was a top priority, and teens all got jobs mostly to finance a car. Heck, I was doing burnouts in the driveway before I had a license :-)

Naturally, they'd race them. All over the place. By informally setting aside a safe boulevard at night for them to express those urges, the idea was things would be more safe, not less, and the cops could keep an eye on it to keep things from getting out of hand. After the cops were forced to shut it down, it went back to being distributed around the city in a much less safe manner.

Re: Waymo car swarmed by skaters in San Francisco 'hill bomb'

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Or we can just install speed bumps/dots on every hilly street and let young people figure out a different way to being needlessly reckless. You're saying "good for em I say" to people who give themselves traumatic brain injuries and kill random innocent people: https://sfist.com/2020/07/20/city-installs-raised-dots-on-do... https://sfist.com/2019/07/20/well-known-skateboarder-tomoko-... If they have some private hill…

So.. public streets aren't for public use? You need to own your own private property to make any use however temporary? Safety measures are good but this is one of the purposes of public infrastructure; to be used by the public.

A random group shutting down a roadway for their own purposes does not make it "used by the public".

Do you think they let random cars drive down the streets they're bombing on? No, they decide that they enforce their own laws.

Re: Waymo car swarmed by skaters in San Francisco 'hill bomb'

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Or we can just install speed bumps/dots on every hilly street and let young people figure out a different way to being needlessly reckless. You're saying "good for em I say" to people who give themselves traumatic brain injuries and kill random innocent people: https://sfist.com/2020/07/20/city-installs-raised-dots-on-do... https://sfist.com/2019/07/20/well-known-skateboarder-tomoko-... If they have some private hill…

I REALLY don't understand appeals to safety when you then fail to mention the astounding death-toll of car transportation.

Perhaps that's because cars have a far higher utility than throwing yourself down a hill, or watching people throw themselves down a hill.
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