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Governor Newsom announces California will make its own insulin

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Re: Governor Newsom announces California will make its own insulin

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Post by orwin »

xtracto wrote: post #141
gandalfgeek wrote: post #28

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I can’t relate at all to that sentiment. California has got to be one of the most bloated and wasteful state governments in the entire US. High taxes and nothing to show for it. The entrenched far left seems bent on destroying the middle class, driving out business, regulating everything to death and displacing merit as a selection factor. Whatever glory Cali has— tech, entertainment, farming, weather, natural beauty…

I chuckle whenever I read someone referring to any US political view as "Far Left" ... the most leftist leftist in the US would be considered center-right in most parts of the world

> the most leftist leftist `that you see on TV` in the US would be considered center-right

ftfy

There is some leftists in the US, i found them. Old hippies or young actives doing a lot of hiking/rock climbing/kayaking and playing music. They mostly don't engage in the two-party politics.

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Post by monocasa »

rapsey wrote: post #153
pempem wrote: post #145

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Like FLA and GA? California has higher taxes, california also has internationally ranked economies at the city level. Of course things could be better, and like a previous commenter mentioned, there are missing investments in housing, transportation and more. That is however, because of the continuous specter of the right winning state offices and the "left" party basically being centerist.

FLA/GA are not major ports. They also do not have the farm land. Prosperity is not entirely location dependent, but it is one of the largest factors. CA has the climate (at least during that period) and natural resources very few places in the world do.

FLA/GA are absolutely major ports. Savannah is the fourth busiest port in the US, right behind combined New Jersey/New York.

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Post by nradov »

SubjectToChange wrote: post #187
justinbaker84 wrote: post #166

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I think a more relevant take is "how are they going to accomplish this with only $50 million? California can't even build high speed rail with a budget in 10s of billions of dollars and more than a decade of time.

And what exactly is the proper amount of time and money for California high speed rail? I doubt you can give an answer that isn't practically bullshit.

The proper amount of money would be $40B, as per the original promises by project proponents.

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Post by monocasa »

bushbaba wrote: post #119
rayiner wrote: post #86

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They used to be good.

+1. Georgia has homes selling for 500k in the Walton School district. It's ranked higher than Palo Alto's High Schools. Let that sink in. https://www.usnews.com/education/best-high-schools/georgia/d... https://www.usnews.com/education/best-high-schools/californi...

I went to Walton; it's a pretty shit school. They keep their stats up by pressuring anyone falling behind to drop out.

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Post by feet »

over_bridge wrote: post #158
ALittleLight wrote: post #150

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Left and right aren't objective measurements, they are relative ones. Relative to US politics generally California's government is left. If you're in some even more left European country that doesn't mean anything - Europe is not the objective standard by which everyone measures politics.

While it's true that the terms are relative, there are countries in Europe and South America that have literal communist, socialist or anarchist parties. Hearing people describe Democrats as far left makes them sound like clowns spouting canned propaganda. It's not conducive to conversation as you know you aren't talking to a rational person who can argue in good faith.

People who call US Democrats far left likely don't have experience with culture outside of their own and their local/national mainstream news.

Either that or they hang out on 4chan

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Post by feet »

monocasa wrote: post #192
rapsey wrote: post #153

Earlier quoted context omitted.

FLA/GA are not major ports. They also do not have the farm land. Prosperity is not entirely location dependent, but it is one of the largest factors. CA has the climate (at least during that period) and natural resources very few places in the world do.

FLA/GA are absolutely major ports. Savannah is the fourth busiest port in the US, right behind combined New Jersey/New York.

People will say anything to avoid admitting that a higher tax, slightly center right state is doing well because of those policies and politics

Cognitive dissonance, just like the fact that all of the red states have way higher gun deaths per capita than any blue state yet they'll scream about Chicago without looking at the actual numbers

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Post by mathgeek »

junofan wrote: post #185
hnburnsy wrote: post #39

Here are the budget details on this... https://esd.dof.ca.gov/Documents/bcp/2223/FY2223_ORG4140_BCP... "This proposal will use $50 million in funding to enter into a partnership with a contract manufacturer to develop and bring to market interchangeable biosimilar insulin products in both vial and pen form." "This proposal also includes an additional $50 million for the construction of an insulin manufacturing facili…

Why on earth would you build a plant in California instead of buying API from India?

A big component is likely the international supply chain issues that became apparent in 2020/21.

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Post by jquery »

areoform wrote: post #94
gandalfgeek wrote: post #28

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I can’t relate at all to that sentiment. California has got to be one of the most bloated and wasteful state governments in the entire US. High taxes and nothing to show for it. The entrenched far left seems bent on destroying the middle class, driving out business, regulating everything to death and displacing merit as a selection factor. Whatever glory Cali has— tech, entertainment, farming, weather, natural beauty…

While I respect where you are coming from, the data doesn't match your perceptions. California's governance is exceptional despite the corruption. Here's some data, - One of the best ways to match models to reality is to see if they have predictive power, for some time now people have predicted that California is doomed, see, “California doom: Staggering $54 billion deficit looms,” https://apnews.com/article/48a9ce5a…

This should be higher up. California’s policies have shown incredible public benefit. As much of the USA has been sliding back on important metrics, California’s progressive politics have pulled it forward. This makes conservatives very mad and they will do everything to discredit it, including trying to spin the budget surplus as a terrible thing, despite them not long ago (15 years ago?) spinning our budget deficit as precisely the same sign of bloated and wasteful mismanagement. This shows they aren’t arguing in good faith.

Reddit user lists all the reasons why California policies lead to the best health and life expectancy outcomes in the United States: https://www.reddit.com/r/bestof/comments/up7wei/uinconvenien...

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Post by areoform »

akira2501 wrote: post #174
areoform wrote: post #94

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While I respect where you are coming from, the data doesn't match your perceptions. California's governance is exceptional despite the corruption. Here's some data, - One of the best ways to match models to reality is to see if they have predictive power, for some time now people have predicted that California is doomed, see, “California doom: Staggering $54 billion deficit looms,” https://apnews.com/article/48a9ce5a…

Swinging from a 54B deficit to a 75B surplus then holding that surplus during a period of record inflation is the absolute definition of inefficient and wasteful. A single doctor at a single hospital developed this theory and then tested it. There is a foundation which is partly funded by the state, but they just promulgate the ideas... it's up to the hospitals to do the mortality review and apply what they've learne…

I am unsure if you've read my comment carefully, but the expectation was a $54B deficit. What they got was a $72B surplus.

> A single doctor at a single hospital developed this theory and then tested it. There is a foundation which is partly funded by the state, but they just promulgate the ideas... it's up to the hospitals to do the mortality review and apply what they've learned there. There's really no fingerprint of recent government efficiency to be found here.

I don't understand. Can you please provide citations for what you're trying to say?

> CMQCC was founded in 2006 at Stanford University School of Medicine together with the State of California in response to rising maternal mortality and morbidity rates. Since CMQCC’s inception, California has seen maternal mortality decline by 65 percent between 2006 to 2016, while the national maternal mortality rate continued to rise.

https://www.cmqcc.org/who-we-are

If you read through the links, you'll see that the Californian Government has made substantial investments in maternal mortality and perinatal care which has resulted in this staggering decline. The resources of the state were mobilized with the help of the best evidence backed medicine to save lives. That's a great outcome!

> What connection is there between government efficiency and life span of citizens? This is a minefield of variables.

It's not about efficiency as much as it is about policy. No large organization is efficient; rather they ought to be measured by their effectiveness.

Investment in hospitals, clinics and public health. Reductions in environmental emissions (air pollution dramatically reduces lifespans). Expansion of coverage programs like medicaid via systems like medi-cal; https://www.medi-cal.ca.gov/ Ensuring access to clean drinking water, adequate sanitation - https://www.npr.org/sections/health-shots/2020/11/23/9379451... . Preventing dumping of toxic waste. Public vaccination programs. And the many, many other levers governments can pull to ensure that people live longer and are healthier.

> Aren't minimum wages significantly different between California and Texas? Wasn't this phased in around that time? How much of this increase is due to this?

In the comment, the study compares California and Texas between 2000 to 2020.

I am not a specialist on the rest, and do not have the data on hand, but just a note, American infrastructure is crumbling in general due to a receding of the state from infrastructure investments.

Could you please provide a citation and explanation for your Idaho comment?

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