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Governor Newsom announces California will make its own insulin

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Re: Governor Newsom announces California will make its own insulin

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Post by zeruch »

KerrAvon wrote: post #128
gandalfgeek wrote: post #28

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I can’t relate at all to that sentiment. California has got to be one of the most bloated and wasteful state governments in the entire US. High taxes and nothing to show for it. The entrenched far left seems bent on destroying the middle class, driving out business, regulating everything to death and displacing merit as a selection factor. Whatever glory Cali has— tech, entertainment, farming, weather, natural beauty…

“Cali” — if you’re not a California native, why do you think your opinion is valid? Have you read up on the political and social history of the state?

You don't have to be a native to have a well founded opinion of California, but his opinion wasn't very well founded.

Re: Governor Newsom announces California will make its own insulin

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Post by xtracto »

sbierwagen wrote: post #44
hiddencost wrote: post #12

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Because capitalism is extremely inefficient? Insulin in the US is 5x the cost in Canada [0]. [0] https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/35135692/

Your target here is "capitalism"? Did Canada switch over to a Stalinist command economy when I wasn't looking?

Last I heard they had some sort of socialized healthcare.

Re: Governor Newsom announces California will make its own insulin

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Post by rapsey »

pempem wrote: post #145
rapsey wrote: post #134

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Coastal regions are always more prosperous.

Like FLA and GA? California has higher taxes, california also has internationally ranked economies at the city level. Of course things could be better, and like a previous commenter mentioned, there are missing investments in housing, transportation and more. That is however, because of the continuous specter of the right winning state offices and the "left" party basically being centerist.

FLA/GA are not major ports. They also do not have the farm land. Prosperity is not entirely location dependent, but it is one of the largest factors. CA has the climate (at least during that period) and natural resources very few places in the world do.

Re: Governor Newsom announces California will make its own insulin

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Post by zeruch »

CoastalCoder wrote: post #58

I'm curious about liability. My understanding (maybe wrong) is that for private drug manufacturers, the risk of lawsuits provides a strong incentive for safe, effective products. Would a California-run facility have similar incentives?

The California facility would still be bound by the same standards (if anything, California is more not less stringent on things like that) and the risks are still the same.

Re: Governor Newsom announces California will make its own insulin

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Post by zeroonetwothree »

drekk wrote: post #135
gandalfgeek wrote: post #28

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I can’t relate at all to that sentiment. California has got to be one of the most bloated and wasteful state governments in the entire US. High taxes and nothing to show for it. The entrenched far left seems bent on destroying the middle class, driving out business, regulating everything to death and displacing merit as a selection factor. Whatever glory Cali has— tech, entertainment, farming, weather, natural beauty…

California's government is center-right. There is no far left party in US politics. That's why you don't have affordable higher education or healthcare, why your infrastructure is decaying, why you don't have nice public transit, etc. It's also why your taxes are so high with nothing to show for them. Turns out austerity is expensive for most people. Canada and Mexico have cheap insulin because their governments are…

Is this an intentional troll?

Re: Governor Newsom announces California will make its own insulin

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pempem wrote: post #145
rapsey wrote: post #134

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Coastal regions are always more prosperous.

Like FLA and GA? California has higher taxes, california also has internationally ranked economies at the city level. Of course things could be better, and like a previous commenter mentioned, there are missing investments in housing, transportation and more. That is however, because of the continuous specter of the right winning state offices and the "left" party basically being centerist.

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Re: Governor Newsom announces California will make its own insulin

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Post by over_bridge »

ALittleLight wrote: post #150
drekk wrote: post #135

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California's government is center-right. There is no far left party in US politics. That's why you don't have affordable higher education or healthcare, why your infrastructure is decaying, why you don't have nice public transit, etc. It's also why your taxes are so high with nothing to show for them. Turns out austerity is expensive for most people. Canada and Mexico have cheap insulin because their governments are…

Left and right aren't objective measurements, they are relative ones. Relative to US politics generally California's government is left. If you're in some even more left European country that doesn't mean anything - Europe is not the objective standard by which everyone measures politics.

While it's true that the terms are relative, there are countries in Europe and South America that have literal communist, socialist or anarchist parties.

Hearing people describe Democrats as far left makes them sound like clowns spouting canned propaganda. It's not conducive to conversation as you know you aren't talking to a rational person who can argue in good faith.

Re: Governor Newsom announces California will make its own insulin

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Post by frumper »

sentientslug wrote: post #138
TedShiller wrote: post #131

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You should try living in California sometime so you'll see first hand

The fact that you called it Cali is pretty good evidence that you don’t live here Lol, and now you edited it out. Case in point.

Living in California for four decades I have definitely heard people living here call it Cali. California is large and diverse, not everyone speaks like you do.
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