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Governor Newsom announces California will make its own insulin

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Re: Governor Newsom announces California will make its own insulin

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I can't claim you are wrong. But I do question when the evidence is so murky. A lot of what folks think they want in efficient systems are systems that would fail because of how efficient they were run. That is, what evidence do you have that the success is in spite of government? Is there a comparable government or system that is doing better? Why? Or why not?

Bullet train: despite earthquakes and mountains, Japan runs a pretty decent network of high speed trains. Politics, well documented by the papers, show how a high speed train had repeated stops added to it, and was slowed down in California to the speed of a regular train while costing much more. Despite adding an additional 1.0% tax to fund mental health, homelessness has only increased in California. Efforts to red…

I'm not sure this fully tracks. A type of public transit failed in California that succeeded elsewhere. If that is the reference, why can't I point to the tech industry and use it as positive evidence?

And, most of the bad things you are bringing up are happening all throughout the US. Just feels too convenient to say that the tech industry is in spite of the government, but the failures are because of it.

Re: Governor Newsom announces California will make its own insulin

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I can’t relate at all to that sentiment. California has got to be one of the most bloated and wasteful state governments in the entire US. High taxes and nothing to show for it. The entrenched far left seems bent on destroying the middle class, driving out business, regulating everything to death and displacing merit as a selection factor. Whatever glory Cali has— tech, entertainment, farming, weather, natural beauty…

While I respect where you are coming from, the data doesn't match your perceptions. California's governance is exceptional despite the corruption. Here's some data, - One of the best ways to match models to reality is to see if they have predictive power, for some time now people have predicted that California is doomed, see, “California doom: Staggering $54 billion deficit looms,” https://apnews.com/article/48a9ce5a…

I appreciate this post. Thanks.

Re: Governor Newsom announces California will make its own insulin

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High taxes on newcomers. Nearly nonexistent taxes on dynastic families.

California income tax has no carve outs for capital gains so I don’t know where you got that idea. Rich people specifically don’t like California because of the taxes (as compared to other No or low income tax states). I assume you are referring to property taxes, but undoubtedly any “dynastic” family is going to have more tax liability from income than from property value.

California has very, very low real estate tax.

That drives real estate values higher, and creates a big tax divide between owners and renters.

Re: Governor Newsom announces California will make its own insulin

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It's a mix. California has at least some reasons for why it is a tech haven: non-competes unenforceable; well-supported state university system California also gets a lot wrong that interferes with tech: prop 13 and friends, housing policy, incredible corruption, massive local conservatism But California is most like America as a microcosm: horrifically corrupt but such a powerhouse that it resembles a leviathan that…

> California also gets a lot wrong that interferes with tech: … incredible corruption… Indeed, it is literally “incredible”. What passes for corruption in California wouldn’t even be worth noticing on the older states of the east coast, especially the north east. I’ve lived in both.

I've lived in a few countries, but when I was on the East Coast I wasn't anywhere near noticing this. Happy to grant the point that it's better than the older economies of the East.

Re: Governor Newsom announces California will make its own insulin

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Sometimes I feel like this is the endgame where the US overall kind of declines but California starts managing itself better and operates almost like an independent country. Probably wishful thinking but would be great.

That would be nice, but so far it's going in the wrong direction

Re: Governor Newsom announces California will make its own insulin

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I can’t relate at all to that sentiment. California has got to be one of the most bloated and wasteful state governments in the entire US. High taxes and nothing to show for it. The entrenched far left seems bent on destroying the middle class, driving out business, regulating everything to death and displacing merit as a selection factor. Whatever glory Cali has— tech, entertainment, farming, weather, natural beauty…

I don’t think that’a entirely fair. California is the product of good governance during the 1950s-1980s. There is public infrastructure, like good schools and universities, that needs to be laid to attract industry in the first place. California probably wouldn’t the what it is without the UC system, for example. Of course that was a very different California.

It's not entirely fair, but mostly

Re: Governor Newsom announces California will make its own insulin

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Sometimes I feel like this is the endgame where the US overall kind of declines but California starts managing itself better and operates almost like an independent country. Probably wishful thinking but would be great.

I can’t relate at all to that sentiment. California has got to be one of the most bloated and wasteful state governments in the entire US. High taxes and nothing to show for it. The entrenched far left seems bent on destroying the middle class, driving out business, regulating everything to death and displacing merit as a selection factor. Whatever glory Cali has— tech, entertainment, farming, weather, natural beauty…

“Cali” — if you’re not a California native, why do you think your opinion is valid? Have you read up on the political and social history of the state?

Re: Governor Newsom announces California will make its own insulin

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I don’t think that’a entirely fair. California is the product of good governance during the 1950s-1980s. There is public infrastructure, like good schools and universities, that needs to be laid to attract industry in the first place. California probably wouldn’t the what it is without the UC system, for example. Of course that was a very different California.

Don’t forget about massive defense spending, and middle class relocations to California.

What middle class is moving to California?

Re: Governor Newsom announces California will make its own insulin

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post #54

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I don’t think that’a entirely fair. California is the product of good governance during the 1950s-1980s. There is public infrastructure, like good schools and universities, that needs to be laid to attract industry in the first place. California probably wouldn’t the what it is without the UC system, for example. Of course that was a very different California.

It's not entirely fair, but mostly

It’s complete bullshit and we can safely dismiss out of hand.
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