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Ask HN: I’m 41 and still unmarried – what should I do?

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Re: Ask HN: I’m 41 and still unmarried – what should I do?

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One of my ex-girlfriends had a list of twenty things she required in a mate. I met 19 of them. She left. I met an amazing woman a couple of years later (at 43). We’re married and have an amazing 13 yo daughter. My ex is still single. Maybe examine your standards. And I do mean this in a constructive way, by way of perhaps helping to troubleshoot. The way you describe your experience above, you present as high-expecta…

I really appreciate this reminder . A lot of dating books recommend getting really specific about what you want Funnily enough, I’ve had trouble writing a checklist. I know that I want someone who wants kids, is loving , kind , healthy and into monogamy. I do want to feel physically attracted to them but I think that could take many forms for me. I really appreciate the part of the story where your wife invited you f…

> A lot of dating books recommend getting really specific about what you want

Also, from my personal experience, what you want is going to change over time. And even if someone checks your boxes today, they’re unlikely to be that same person in 10 years.

Being a parent changed me a lot (hopefully for the better) and 20s me, 30s me, 40s me are all pretty different guys in terms of priorities, willingness to listen to others, etc.

I echo other comments and say the priority is having a communication channel and the willingness to adapt.

Re: Ask HN: I’m 41 and still unmarried – what should I do?

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Yeah, I’m afraid I might be the red flag ! That said, I spent most of my twenties processing being abandoned by my dad and fear of sexual assault due to that being part of the history of women in my family. So I didn’t really start dating with an open mind until my thirties- and that was in nyc which is notoriously bad for women. But probably I still have a little red flag :) one guy asked me on a date why “the beaut…

So he complimented you, and you twisted it such that he implied you're a whore instead? Interesting.

It's called "negging", and manipulators use this tactic all the time. Most commonly against women. Gross is an understatement for this breed of human.

Re: Ask HN: I’m 41 and still unmarried – what should I do?

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I’m going to provide you with some horrible advice. Please don’t take it.

Date married men.

There are a huge number of married men in my social group who want to have kids, but their spouse is unable or unwilling. These men sound just as forlorn as you.

One finally divorced his wife and is engaged to a woman with two young sons. I’ve never seen him as happy.

I’d estimate that 10% of my married male friends are in this circumstance. Half are deeply committed to their wives, but the other half could be swayed by the opportunity for a family. Those 10% of men, are significantly better catches than any of my still unmarried friends.

My unmarried friends have mental illness, drug/alcohol addiction, or… both. One has a significant physical disability. It’s a horrible pool to date from.

Again, disregard my advice.. but that’s what I’d do if I were you.

Re: Ask HN: I’m 41 and still unmarried – what should I do?

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I really appreciate this reminder . A lot of dating books recommend getting really specific about what you want Funnily enough, I’ve had trouble writing a checklist. I know that I want someone who wants kids, is loving , kind , healthy and into monogamy. I do want to feel physically attracted to them but I think that could take many forms for me. I really appreciate the part of the story where your wife invited you f…

> A lot of dating books recommend getting really specific about what you want Also, from my personal experience, what you want is going to change over time. And even if someone checks your boxes today, they’re unlikely to be that same person in 10 years. Being a parent changed me a lot (hopefully for the better) and 20s me, 30s me, 40s me are all pretty different guys in terms of priorities, willingness to listen to…

>Also, from my personal experience, what you want is going to change over time. And even if someone checks your boxes today, they’re unlikely to be that same person in 10 years.

And what you can afford is going to change over time.

Re: Ask HN: I’m 41 and still unmarried – what should I do?

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At the very least op should ask whoever sends her an email to confirm that they are user “mtklein” by updating his hn profile about section with a random, unique, string she generates or something. Just to be sure they are the right person. Also rip her inbox.

+1 Yes, safety first. We can be safe, but the world isn't safe.

The downvotes are at best amusing and at worst concerning, usually I don't comment on it but in this case I'm genuinely curious- who is against staying safe? Like, what!?? Please leave a comment instead, unless you're just bitterly trolling.

Re: Ask HN: I’m 41 and still unmarried – what should I do?

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For the data-driven. Austin is not a good place for women to find a man. It favors educated, successful older men, pairing with younger women. Go west. Silicon Valley. Less men, more women. Dating apps tend to have two attachment styles - anxious attached, avoidant (majority for the men on these apps). And, you may have an avoidant attachment style yourself.

>Dating apps tend to have two attachment styles - anxious attached, avoidant (majority for the men on these apps).

Can you expand on and provide a source for this?

Re: Ask HN: I’m 41 and still unmarried – what should I do?

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The good news is a lot of this is easily fixed, by learning what's important and what isn't in your pursuit of romance! >By most cultural standards, according to my male friends, I’m smart, This is pretty irrelevant, even if true, which is always suspect coming from guys. It's also a very common BS compliment. > beautiful, If guys are using the B word, it probably means you are not attractive/hot/sexy, which is what…

When you say "this is what guys care about", I think you're talking about a specific and very surface-level kind of person who wants a superficially compatible woman. A lot of this advice, though refreshingly frank, is not advice that I think is likely to get the OP what she wants if she wants a deep relationship. There's a lot of blanket statements here. Maybe the kind of guys you spend time with don't care about me…

>When you say "this is what guys care about", I think you're talking about a specific and very surface-level kind of person who wants a superficially compatible woma

No, it's not specific; it's very wide and applicable to a large majority of guys. Also, there is no such thing as "superficially compatible"; either you are compatible and can develop the relationship into more, or you are not compatible and are only pretending you actually like to be around eachother. OP has been obsessing over the elements that are superficial, and she has been entirely ignorant of components that are important for compatibility with men.

>There's a lot of blanket statements here.

Yes. Correct. That is how you successfully date. It is a numbers game. It is not about finding the .000000000143% of the population that is your "The One", it's about finding the 1% of the population that you could be happily ever after with, and making sure you are also attractive to them.

>Maybe the kind of guys you spend time with don't care about meaningful work or

No. Guys don't care about that, period. It is a sexed trait. Women find high value in men's work. Men do not.

>Also, the statement about "beautiful" not being a real compliment is just totally false. Being "beautiful" and being "sexy" or "hot" are not always the same thing

Obviously they are not the same thing. Dogs and manicured lawns are beautiful. They are never hot. Beautiful exists to mean "something I like looking at but not because it's sexually attractive".

>but who would lie to a friend about either?

A crapload of people. It's a classic puffery compliment, because it's 100% subjective and 0% able to be discredited.

>I also want to challenge this sentiment. If you think someone "looks nuts" because

You can challenge it all you want.

Women who think self help books and tarot cards will land them a man is a huge red flag to a vast majority of men. It is evidence that they are not "emotionally mature", as they claim to be, because these things are not difficult for an emotionally mature woman to learn and understand. Men are not that complicated.

>There is nothing wrong whatsoever with trying therapy or alternative methodologies for self-exploration.

If by "for self-exploration" you mean "for a laugh", sure. If you actually go home at the end of the day and say "why aren't I married, I read XYZ and saw ABC therapist", yes, that is a large indication you have a potentially damaging social malfunction.

Re: Ask HN: I’m 41 and still unmarried – what should I do?

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I absolutely love your honesty. Your willingness to put yourself out there and then not get defensive when people are a little bit harsh in their opinions is exceptionally rare.

Since I love children so much, it’s a little heartbreaking to hear your yearning. The one encouraging thing I can say is that you are insanely brave and you are an exceptionally clear thinker. I wish you the very best on your journey.

Re: Ask HN: I’m 41 and still unmarried – what should I do?

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My impression is that all the complex and time consuming things you have been doing, you are just doing in order to to leave a properly documented trail to convince yourself (mainly, as well as anyone else) that you made a good and proper effort, and that the lack of a result must be due to some uncontrollable external factors, and not something like your heart not being in it, or you're scared or reasons like that.

Re: Ask HN: I’m 41 and still unmarried – what should I do?

#250

I am a man who dated many women casually via online dating, until I decided to settle down (wrote about this here: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=31021578 ), so I think I can bring a somewhat relevant perspective. Based on my experience, dating is absolutely a market driven by a typical economy of supply and demand, and the supply of "good enough" men who want to settle down with a woman is virtually unlimited…

Thanks for sharing your article ! Looking forward to reading it!

And thank you even more for taking the time to share your advice with me. Your time is precious and the fact you’d take time for me who you don’t even know means a lot.

So….

With regards to your first point, I am definitely a weirdo and proud of it! One of my favorite teachers says, “weird is wonderful !” Who else but a bonafide weirdo would post such ah intimate post about their dating life and deepest hopes and fears for children and marriage in such a public setting as Hacker News. Oddly enough, despite being a proud weirdo, I find almost every guy I go out with wants to see me again. So that’s cool, and I appreciate that! I think it’s partly because I’m grounded and kind, and partly because I’m pretty, rarely because I feel truly seen and appreciated for being the delightful weirdo I am.

With regards to your second point, I can’t tell you how much I loathe the word, “picky” which I find to be used so much when in comes to dating and by so many people in this thread. Can’t we at least say “selective”? The word picky makes me think of someone picking their nose not picking a partner.

I think that what people are actually implying when they say “picky” is that I’m materialistic , that I’m looking for a rich guy, for a hot guy, etcetera.

While at times, like most human beings, I am sure I dismissed someone wonderful for the wrong reasons and really missed out, overall I do not believe this to be the case.

I’m looking for a kind man, for an honest man, for a loyal man, for a man I’m physically attracted to, yes, but I think that can also grow with time.

I think that I’ve fallen in love with many a man I didn’t like immediately and so I find myself gravitating more towards advice of friends first then be less selective on such an important decision than life partner.

Would anyone say that someone is being too selective on choosing their CTO ? What can be more important than life partner ?

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